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The use of mSATA

  1. #101


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    whs, I repeated again. What I did was to restore Win8.1 OS (56 gb size) and EFI (0.5gb) on 238 gb SSD drive with Acronis program. That process is quite simple. I see that it was acceptable to run win 8.1 on SSD. But the same problems as I mentioned earlier did not go away. The major problem is that I could not run Photoshop CS6 because scratch file could not open. I would like to repeat a few more times before moving on Macrium system. I really want to succeed in using SSD drive.

    I have a question about handling SSD drive. After restoring OS and EFI partitions on SSD disk, it showed three partitions (see the attachment). Could you please post how to "delete" partitions and merge them using Diskpart commands? I assume that these operations on SSD could be different from those used on SATA drives. Then, I would like to repeat restore again.

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  2. #102


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    The third partition is really unallocated space. Best is to add it to the C partition. That is, however, not possible with Windows tools. For that you need the bootable CD of Partition Wizard (Last box on the page). Burn that to CD and boot with the CD. Here is a tut on how its done - it will take a LONG time.

    How to extend partition easily with partition magic ? Partition Wizard video help.

    If the EFI partition were in front of the C partition, that could have been done with Disk Management. No idea why Acronis flipped them.
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  3. #103


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    Windows 8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    The third partition is really unallocated space. Best is to add it to the C partition. That is, however, not possible with Windows tools. For that you need the bootable CD of Partition Wizard (Last box on the page). Burn that to CD and boot with the CD. Here is a tut on how its done - it will take a LONG time.

    How to extend partition easily with partition magic ? Partition Wizard video help.

    If the EFI partition were in front of the C partition, that could have been done with Disk Management. No idea why Acronis flipped them.
    I have that program but I wanted to learn how to do with Diskpart. I was puzzled why EFI was placed behind OS partition. Unallocated space can be handled easily but I got to practice how to move EFI in front of OS partition. That could be a factor, I guess. I did not know that Disk Management could allow to move partition. I might take a look at it.

    Secondly, I tried Macrum for backup and restore. I did it in a similarly way I do with Acronis. It seems to be quite simple. Something was weird. It looks that I am backing up WinPE like stuff instead OS. When booted, WinPE stuff was on the screen. I got to read more in detail about the use Macrum. During backup, Macrum failed to make image of EFI (500 mb). I repeated three times but it could not make image but no problem for OS partition.
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  4. #104


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    It should image the EFi. Do you have Version 5 of Macrium.
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  5. #105


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    Windows 8.1


    I looked at the execution file: v5.2.6465_reflect_setup_free_x64.exe (44.99 mb). I installed this file.
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  6. #106


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    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    It should image the EFi. Do you have Version 5 of Macrium.
    I repeated again and again. No luck. I got the best result this evening. I attached what it looks like under disk management.
    The very slow response by mouse cursor, problem with Photoshop, etc. I finally gave up on SSD system. I feel that there is a problem with moving SATA-OS to SSD using Acronis. SSD system might work if Windows and all programs are installed directly from the original CD rather than restore using Acronis program. I should consider this approach if restore failed to work properly.

    I would like to try Macrum.

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    Last edited by hummer7; 20 Feb 2014 at 09:56.
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  7. #107


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    I am really sorry that you are having so much trouble. I have moved the OS at least a dozen times on my own and friend's systems. Never had the slightest problem. There is also a superb program that does the job with 3 clicks. If you don't mind the $19.95, you can try that.

    Paragon Migrate OS to SSD - System migration to Solid State Drives (SSD) - Overview
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  8. #108


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    Windows 8.1


    Not at all. It's a learning process. My computer was brought home yesterday. I cannot try here.
    So far, the computer runs fine. I don't know whether I mentioned to you or not this booting issue. When I got the first XPS desktop, everything went fine and great. But unfortunately it crashed.

    Then a got a replacement XPS desktop which is very similar. The differences between are: a) 278 gb SSD (instead of 38 gb) came withi, b) BlueRay DVD ROM instead of the standard DVD ROM; c) Secure booting was default setting.

    I had a problem with secure booting which caused a warning of Secure Booting Violation. I chatted with a Dell techie. He told me to disable "secure boot". Then, the Secure Booting Violation error was gone. But the booting pattern is slightly different and slower. Otherwise, all look the same to me.

    I wonder the secure booting has to do with my problem or not. The major concern is that windows freezes OFTEN after SSD booting. That is the critical issue. This computer is equipped with 24 GB RAM. Memory is not issue.

    But I enjoy learning. I have good Windows 7 computers at work and also at home. I have a plenty of time to play around this XPS computer. I enjoyed the learning from you. I have a feeling that something is wrong around the SSD-system. I don't mind buying Paragon software. But I will try repeat Macrum system this weekend.

    If that fails, I will get Paragon software. I am very interested in handling SSD. I will let you know how it goes with Macrum this weekend.
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  9. #109


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    Nothing should really change when using the SSD. The SSD is a plain Sata drive with a different technology - that's all. Secure boot or any other feature should not affect it any different than it affects any vanilla HDD.

    I still think that something went wrong in your imaging and restoration process. I'll wait to see your results with Macrium or the Paragon tool. That would be the first system where we could not get the OS properly working on a SSD.
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  10. #110


    Posts : 84
    Windows 8.1


    I have been using Acronis for about 10 years. I did not have problem with it.
    This is what I did for making image for C-partition. Backup files were created for everything on the C-drive (i.e., all 6 partitions). This backup file was used for the restore process, by selecting EFI and OS. It's very simple process. Even grandma can do.

    I appreciate your patience for helping me with this process.
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