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Dell Venue 8 Pro - does anybody have one

  1. #21


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    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    It is supposed to have GNSS which is a superset of GPS. The real problem is that there is no really good navigation software for Windows like there is for Android where they have tons.
    It depends what you mean by good. The 2 Windows packages I have personally used, MS Street & Trips (2013 version currently on sale for $20) and the DeLorme Street Atlas are both head and shoulders above anything I have seen in the Android world, especially in regards to route planning. Here's a link for a free 14-day trial of Streets & Trips

    The issue seems to be that the built-in GPS hardware in the Win 8 tablets has a new interface (doesn't use a COM port) and I'm not aware of any windows software that is updated to use the new interface. Microsoft Does It Again? | Geoff Coupe's Blog

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  2. #22


    Quote Originally Posted by strollin View Post
    Madcratebuilder - Are you sure it has a GPS? Everything I have read says that the V8P does not have GPS and that only the future LTE models will include GPS since it is built-in to that chipset.

    I've run that "My GPS Location" app on Win 8.1 on a VM that I know for a fact does not have GPS. The app doesn't report that there is no GPS installed, it simply uses location info via the wifi. On mine, it isn't very accurate since it reports my current location as approximately 1.5 miles north of my actual location.
    After playing with it and seeing it's only accurate to 5k meters I agree no GPS. They go out of way to make it appear it gps. It would be interesting to see what it reports when you are out in the boonies.
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  3. #23


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    Thanks Bruce. Another sad Microsoft story. As the man says:

    The left hand of Microsoft clearly has no clue what the right hand is doing.
    Maybe I buy the new Nexus 7 after all (I left my old N7 in Europe). At least I know that works.
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  4. #24


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    Quote Originally Posted by strollin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    It is supposed to have GNSS which is a superset of GPS. The real problem is that there is no really good navigation software for Windows like there is for Android where they have tons.
    It depends what you mean by good. The 2 Windows packages I have personally used, MS Street & Trips (2013 version currently on sale for $20) and the DeLorme Street Atlas are both head and shoulders above anything I have seen in the Android world, especially in regards to route planning. Here's a link for a free 14-day trial of Streets & Trips
    Interestingly this version comes with a "GPS locator" @ 50$ that plugs in your laptop.


    Review here;
    Microsoft Streets & Trips 2013 with GPS Locator Review & Rating | PCMag.com

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    Looks like this is the way they are trying to get around the new interface problems - what a shambles.
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    GPS Software Shim


    Centrafuse have developed a "software shim" that couples the GPS data that is delivered through the new Windows 8 Location APIs to the legacy virtual COM ports that software such as Streets & Trips still use.

    See Centrafuse Inc. - Centrafuse Localizer. It is designed to output sensor data to a virtual comm port.
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  7. #27


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    Looks like the "shim" has a loose fit, from the bottom of the Centrafuse Localizer page:

    Limitations:

    The number of active satellites and signal strength is simulated. It DOES NOT represent the quality of the actual GPS/GNSS signal and is provided for protocol compatability only.
    The Windows location platform is limited to a 1hz refresh rate (once a second). At higher rates of speed, the displayed map position may lag behind the actual vehicle position.
    Under NO circumstances should this product be used for precision navigation. It is provided "as-is", and intended for recreational use only. No warranty is given or implied as to the accuracy or availability of location information.


    If it can't be used for precision navigation then I'm not sure what good it would be.
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    That's not the shim - that's the result of Microsoft's design of the Windows 8 Lcation APIs... The GPS APIs are the ugly sisters of the Sensor family. They are not even deemed worthy of a mention in this Microsoft article:

    Choosing the right sensor
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  9. #29


    Why place so much importance on gps in a tablet? Maybe I'm missing something. I have gps in my cars along with onstar, gps in my pocket with my SG3, do I need it in my tablet...nah. I know where I am and where I'm going.

    I spent 8-10 hours with the Venue this weekend, runs as expected, excellent battery life, fast considering it runs windoze. Better than expected wifi reception. Certainly more versatile then my KHD pro or Chromebook.

    ETA: Odd that the site auto corrects my spelling of windows when I type w I n d o z e.
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    Anyone purchase the venue 11 yet and reviews please?
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