Can I upgrade?

mir092

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Hi,
I have a laptop, I was thinking about building my own computer, because my current laptop is rather slow in the world of gaming. But I was looking up the specifiactions on my Laptop and found on the toshiba website that I could upgrade it as I. Here is the specs:

PSKC9A-01N00Q - Toshiba Satellite Pro C850 Computer - Australia :: Toshiba :: Computers, Laptops/Notebooks, Tablets, Televisions, DVD and Blu-Ray Players, Camcorders, Storage, Accessories, and more

then upgrading my memory to this?

Toshiba Memory Accessories - Australia :: Toshiba :: Computers, Laptops/Notebooks, Tablets, Televisions, DVD and Blu-Ray Players, Camcorders, Storage, Accessories, and more

Is it also possible to upgrade my Intel® Celeron® Dual Core B820 processor (1.7GHz, 800MHz FSB, 2 Cores,2MB L3 cache)
to a faster Intel Celeron? I am needing some help here...
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 & Ubuntu 13.10
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Toshiba C850
    CPU
    Intel® Celeron® Dual Core B820 processor (1.7GHz, 800MHz FSB, 2 Cores,2MB L3 cache)
    Memory
    2GB DDR3
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator HM70
    Monitor(s) Displays
    5.6” Widescreen High Definition TFT Active Matrix XGA 200NIT CSV
    Screen Resolution
    1366 x 768
    Mouse
    touchpad
    Browser
    Google Chrome
    Antivirus
    AVG 2013
If you want to play games seriously go ahead and build yourself a Gaming Desktop. If you want a gaming notebook go buy a gaming notebook. Upgrading notebooks is not all that easy, warranties can be voided things care go south very quickly and expensively. If you have at least 4 GB of ram your ok. 8 GB of ram is about the max you will use playing any game! Todays games need horsepower CPU and GPU. Low end Gaming notebooks check out the Asus G Series, High End check out the Sager line, None of these notebooks will come anywhere close to keeping up with a Gaming Desktop and you can put together a pretty good gamer for a little money compared to a Gaming notebook being high dollar and not that upgradeable. And you can just keep on upgrading a desktop as better GPU's and CPU's come on the market
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro MC
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Asus G75VW / Z97 Pro
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-3610QM / I7-4790K
    Motherboard
    Z97 Pro
    Memory
    16 GB Hyundai HTM315156CFR8C-PB PC3-12800
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVIDIA GeForce GTX 670M (GF114M)
    Sound Card
    VIA 6.0.10.1600
    Screen Resolution
    1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 850 Pro 256, Samsung 850 Pro 1TB
    Internet Speed
    30 down 3 up
    Browser
    Explorer 11
    Antivirus
    NIS and Malwarebytes
i agree, unless you have the know how, and can upgrade to a sufficient level (which is doubtful), it's not worth the effort.
You can build a gaming desktop for around 2000$, very high end.
Money should go to CPU and More GPU than anything else. 8G Ram is plenty.
Expect about a thousand+ more for a gaming notebook.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 8.1 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Self Built
    CPU
    I7-3770K
    Motherboard
    ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77
    Memory
    CORSAIR 8GB 2X4 D3 1866
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GTX680 4GB
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS 24" LED VG248QE
    Hard Drives
    SAMSUNG E 256GB SSD 840 PRO -
    SAMSUNG E 120GB SSD840 -
    SEAGATE 1TB PIPELINE
    PSU
    CORSAIR GS800
    Case
    CORSAIR 600T
    Cooling
    CORSAIR HYDRO H100I LIQUID COOLER
    Keyboard
    THERMALTA CHALLENGER ULT GAME-KYBRD
    Mouse
    RAZER DEATHADDER GAME MS BLK-ED
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    APC 1000VA -
    LGELECOEM LG 14X SATA BD BURNER -
    CORSAIR SP120 Fans x 3 -
    NZXT 5.25 USB3 BAY CARD READER -
    HAUPPAUGE COLOSSUS
ok, I don't have a job, I'm not lazy, I just go to high school! ;) So I don't really have $2,000 for a gaming PC or notebook, and my current CPU is 1.7GHz and I have only 2GB RAM.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 & Ubuntu 13.10
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Toshiba C850
    CPU
    Intel® Celeron® Dual Core B820 processor (1.7GHz, 800MHz FSB, 2 Cores,2MB L3 cache)
    Memory
    2GB DDR3
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator HM70
    Monitor(s) Displays
    5.6” Widescreen High Definition TFT Active Matrix XGA 200NIT CSV
    Screen Resolution
    1366 x 768
    Mouse
    touchpad
    Browser
    Google Chrome
    Antivirus
    AVG 2013
Adding memory is relatively easy process, just make sure you get same module as the one already installed. It should help somewhat but do not expect miracles. There might be some possibility to go to a higher processor if it is socketed but that requires major surgery only experienced could and should do.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Home made
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen7 2700x
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime x470 Pro
    Memory
    16GB Kingston 3600
    Graphics Card(s)
    Asus strix 570 OC 4gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 960 evo 250GB
    Silicon Power V70 240GB SSD
    WD 1 TB Blue
    WD 2 TB Blue
    Bunch of backup HDDs.
    PSU
    Sharkoon, Silent Storm 660W
    Case
    Raidmax
    Cooling
    CCM Nepton 140xl
    Internet Speed
    40/2 Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    WD
Ok, to upgrade from a Kingston 2GB to a Kingston 8GB is pretty easy.
What about upgrading a slower Intel Celeron processor to a newer/better Intel Celeron one?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 & Ubuntu 13.10
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Toshiba C850
    CPU
    Intel® Celeron® Dual Core B820 processor (1.7GHz, 800MHz FSB, 2 Cores,2MB L3 cache)
    Memory
    2GB DDR3
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator HM70
    Monitor(s) Displays
    5.6” Widescreen High Definition TFT Active Matrix XGA 200NIT CSV
    Screen Resolution
    1366 x 768
    Mouse
    touchpad
    Browser
    Google Chrome
    Antivirus
    AVG 2013
Ok, to upgrade from a Kingston 2GB to a Kingston 8GB is pretty easy.
What about upgrading a slower Intel Celeron processor to a newer/better Intel Celeron one?

As to upgrading your CPU, you will have to find out from the Manufacture of you Notebook whether you have a upgradable socket on your MB? Many are soldered on to the MB!
For upgrading your RAM, I suggest you install Hwinfo64 this program will show you exactly what your Ram requirement are. You will need to match your timings and Voltages if you have 2 open slots just get a set that matches what you have I wouldn't try to buy just one stick if you only have 2 slots and one is filled. I would get 2 4gb sticks to put in again remember match the timings and voltages of what is in there now. Brand Names don't matter that much but matching set do. And the timings and voltages need to be correct for your MB. More than 8GB is not going to do anything for you at all for gaming!!! and don't expect a big performance jump by putting it in. Games Run off your Video Card and CPU for the most part.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro MC
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Asus G75VW / Z97 Pro
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-3610QM / I7-4790K
    Motherboard
    Z97 Pro
    Memory
    16 GB Hyundai HTM315156CFR8C-PB PC3-12800
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVIDIA GeForce GTX 670M (GF114M)
    Sound Card
    VIA 6.0.10.1600
    Screen Resolution
    1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 850 Pro 256, Samsung 850 Pro 1TB
    Internet Speed
    30 down 3 up
    Browser
    Explorer 11
    Antivirus
    NIS and Malwarebytes
I am the king of guy to try to upgrade my machines. But for a notebook I gave up. On my HP I can not upgrade the wifi to another mini pci-e card. My wifi card is not Windows 8.1 compatible.
Also the amount of memory is limited.
Plus, I tried this summer to upgrade my brother's notebook with a more powerful processor. I went on CPU-Upgrade: motherboard upgrade and processor upgrade resources to see the list of compatiblity. Bought the fastest processor from this list. Upgraded the firmware. Result: the processor did not work on it.

But for a gaming Desktop PC my advice is to read carefully in the user manual about the memory. My gaming PC has a big table about the compatibles hardware and some models have limitations. So be careful. Buy the memory model that gives you the top options. The previous owner of my motherboard thougt that the slot 2 and 4 were broke. He simply put a memory model that would not permit the board to use the four slots.

My last advice is for the Power-Supply. I had a 850 watts from Antec. Top quality. Then after two years would not boot. I changed it for another 850 watts but low quality. The braker in the house burned. I then realised my pc needed a 1200 watts power supply and my Antec was probably 100% loaded all the time during 2 years.

Jean-Patrice Nadeau
St-Bruno de Montarville en banlieue de Montréal, Québec, Canada

Comme dirait Revenu-Québec: la fondation c'est la contribution de chacun, qu'on soit plombier ou avocat.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS
    Motherboard
    M3N78-EM
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Avira
@jpatricenadeau
A bit off topic but what the heck did you manage to stick to that MB that requires so much power ? Even with most bad-a$$ setup it should not require more than 6 -700 "real" Watts.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Home made
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen7 2700x
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime x470 Pro
    Memory
    16GB Kingston 3600
    Graphics Card(s)
    Asus strix 570 OC 4gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 960 evo 250GB
    Silicon Power V70 240GB SSD
    WD 1 TB Blue
    WD 2 TB Blue
    Bunch of backup HDDs.
    PSU
    Sharkoon, Silent Storm 660W
    Case
    Raidmax
    Cooling
    CCM Nepton 140xl
    Internet Speed
    40/2 Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    WD
@jpatricenadeau
A bit off topic but what the heck did you manage to stick to that MB that requires so much power ? Even with most bad-a$$ setup it should not require more than 6 -700 "real" Watts.

That is not entirely true.
High End Systems need good PSU's, depending on what is in them.
The calcs that are out there, this one being the one used most I think, eXtreme Outer Vision - eXtreme tools for computer enthusiasts
Will rate a very high end desktop to only about 635W
In real world use, a 700W PSU won't cut it for long. Sure, you'll get it to go for a while, seriously maybe, but either,,,
1. The PSU will flake out
2. Other Hardware will start flaking out or throwing erroneous errors, the first will most likely be RAM errors or GPU errors

Most High End systems should not start will less than 850W.
And if you are using SLI or CrossFire, that can rise to 1000W

You always want more PSU than your system actually needs, it will run smoother and last longer.


Ok, to upgrade from a Kingston 2GB to a Kingston 8GB is pretty easy.
What about upgrading a slower Intel Celeron processor to a newer/better Intel Celeron one?

[DEL]As for how much RAM to put in the OP laptop, yo have to check the specs, it might already be maxed out.
You can not simply add ram to any system, they can only accept a certain amount. and a certain type/spec ram
An Inspiron 7000 I had only maxed at 512M.[/DEL]

Ok, so I did look closer and that system may max out at 8G.
Since it has 2 slots, you may want to call them and find out if it will max out at 8G or 16G
You want to use both slots, so....
If max is 8G, you will want 2 x 4G sticks, not just one 8G stick.
And to be honest, I wouldn't put more than 8G on that system,, truthfully, I wouldn't put more than 4G total.

Reason, the CPU is not that high end,
2, The Graphics for it, from what I can find are not that high end either. I could be wrong, but I am not seeing anything related to gaming qualities of this chip.

IMO, you would waste more money and effort dropping in a ton of ram that the system just isn't ever going to touch or use.

Final note: I see a lot of people drop 16G+ RAM in a gaming system, I can tell you they aren't touching it. Wasted Money.
It's all in the GPU for gaming. Spend more money on the CPU and GPU stick a max of 8G of quality RAM (Good Kingston is fine)
You will get more bang for your buck.
 
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 8.1 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Self Built
    CPU
    I7-3770K
    Motherboard
    ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77
    Memory
    CORSAIR 8GB 2X4 D3 1866
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GTX680 4GB
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS 24" LED VG248QE
    Hard Drives
    SAMSUNG E 256GB SSD 840 PRO -
    SAMSUNG E 120GB SSD840 -
    SEAGATE 1TB PIPELINE
    PSU
    CORSAIR GS800
    Case
    CORSAIR 600T
    Cooling
    CORSAIR HYDRO H100I LIQUID COOLER
    Keyboard
    THERMALTA CHALLENGER ULT GAME-KYBRD
    Mouse
    RAZER DEATHADDER GAME MS BLK-ED
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    APC 1000VA -
    LGELECOEM LG 14X SATA BD BURNER -
    CORSAIR SP120 Fans x 3 -
    NZXT 5.25 USB3 BAY CARD READER -
    HAUPPAUGE COLOSSUS
Adding memory to your lap top is not going to give you any major speed improvements. I've been down this lap top upgrade road, memory and cpu, it helps a little, but until you get a high performance gpu you are not going to see high levels of game play.

Save your money to build a desk top with a good gpu, you can find good deals on used stuff, just be sure you know what you are getting.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    8.1
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Lenova Flex 15
    CPU
    i5
    Memory
    8gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Itel 4400
    Hard Drives
    ssd
    Browser
    IE
    Other Info
    Dell Venue 8 Pro 64GB

    Numerous Win 7 machines
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