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Documenting my first experience with the Surface Pro 2

View Poll Results: Are you planning to buy a Surface (Pro) 2?

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  • Yes, absolutely! I've pre-orderd a Surface (Pro) 2.

    5 41.67%
  • Yes, I will order within 6 months from now.

    2 16.67%
  • No, I will order after 6 months from now.

    0 0%
  • No, I'm not going to buy a Surface (Pro) 2.

    5 41.67%
  1. #11


    Arnhem, The Netherlands
    Posts : 1,412
    Windows 8.1 Pro x64 Media Center Edition


    Quote Originally Posted by Tepid View Post
    Don't feel too bad about that, with ocare on the way, it won't be long before we are seeing the same kind of taxes.
    Glad you are getting a break on that. Good luck,, I am watching this thread.
    Great to have you aboard this thread. I hope you'll like it.

    Are you considering buying a Surface?

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  2. #12


    Posts : 835
    Win 8.1 Pro


    I own a Surface Pro and love it.
    Just installed Win 8.1 and it is even better.

    you won't be disappointed.

    But I highly recommend spending the extra money on a Pro device and not an RT.
    Don't second guess yourself on that.

    It must be stated every now and then....

    Surface Pro is not just a tablet and can not be compared to iPad's and Androids, or Chromebooks.
    It's a fully functional OS Tablet, that can do everything your desktop and laptop can do.
    The price is correct for such a device as this.
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  3. #13


    Arnhem, The Netherlands
    Posts : 1,412
    Windows 8.1 Pro x64 Media Center Edition


    Quote Originally Posted by Tepid View Post
    I own a Surface Pro and love it.
    Just installed Win 8.1 and it is even better.

    you won't be disappointed.

    But I highly recommend spending the extra money on a Pro device and not an RT.
    Don't second guess yourself on that.

    It must be stated every now and then....

    Surface Pro is not just a tablet and can not be compared to iPad's and Androids, or Chromebooks.
    It's a fully functional OS Tablet, that can do everything your desktop and laptop can do.
    The price is correct for such a device as this.

    I can only second that. In my opinion it's a replacement for a laptop rather than a tablet (iPad).

    Good to hear you like the Surface Pro. I'm sure I will very much like mine! Do you use your Surface Pro as a desktop replacement or as an additive? And did you make a clone of your desktop or is there certain software you would run on your Surface that you don't run on your desktop and vice versa?
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  4. #14


    Posts : 835
    Win 8.1 Pro


    I have a 2 Laptop and 2 desktops.
    It's not a full replacement. It's an extension. It allows me to move around where my laptop doesn't, or much easier.
    Like to the kitchen for recipes, or the front porch to play a game or watch a movie.
    Take it to work as a pen and paper notepad. There are many things it does easier than a laptop, but.....
    Don't look at it as a replacement, you don't want to get rid of your laptop or desktop because you are getting the Surface.

    My WP8 is a further extension for public use. However, I do take my Surface on occasions.
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  5. #15


    Hafnarfjörður IS
    Posts : 4,376
    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Quote Originally Posted by Der Snoober View Post
    Hi strollin,

    I live in The Netherlands. So the Surface Pro 2 is 'only' $1350 here. And another $175 for the Type Cover.

    The gratification is a certain percentage of my monthly income. The fact that I'll get it taxfree means that the bonus will double, since income tax in The Netherlands is at 52%.

    So I guess that you can't really compare the USA and The Netherlands
    Hi there
    "Only" -- that's almost a small fortune.

    For once our politicians did something right and withdrew (albeit only temporarily) our application to join the EU (we're still in the EEA though same as Norway etc) and the Schengen agreement - no Visa's required to visit etc etc.

    This means any travellers can get this at DUTY FREE prices -- maybe you should do a quick trip from Schipol to Iceland (WOW airlines - cheap although not sure if they fly from Schipol - have a great fun weekend in Reykjavik and get the surface PRO TAX FREE -- will pay for the trip !!!!

    Anyway even in NL can't you deduct these sorts of things from your tax bill -- needed for work / educational material. NL (AFAIK) isn't too bad on of setting some of these things against tax -- although I'm a contractor (free lancer) so the rules are different. - On a few gigs I've worked in NL foreigners can even get a 30% tax discount --the 30% tax rule !!! even when these days you have to go through an NL Tax compliant payroll company.

    Looking forward to your review -, especially for Office type apps -- glad you've got a PROPER tablet (with a PROPER OS) and not the RT model (RT = Really Terrible - and that's the Polite way of saying it).

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  6. #16


    Arnhem, The Netherlands
    Posts : 1,412
    Windows 8.1 Pro x64 Media Center Edition


    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Anyway even in NL can't you deduct these sorts of things from your tax bill -- needed for work / educational material. NL (AFAIK) isn't too bad on of setting some of these things against tax -- although I'm a contractor (free lancer) so the rules are different. - On a few gigs I've worked in NL foreigners can even get a 30% tax discount --the 30% tax rule !!! even when these days you have to go through an NL Tax compliant payroll company.

    Looking forward to your review -, especially for Office type apps -- glad you've got a PROPER tablet (with a PROPER OS) and not the RT model (RT = Really Terrible - and that's the Polite way of saying it).

    Cheers
    jimbo
    That's all history now Jimbo. Since a couple of years it's as a normal person no longer possible to deduct anything from taxes, except the mortgage payments. So that just leaves the quicky to Reykjavik you've mentioned . But then I'd have to be lucky enough at the airport. Otherwise they will let me pay EU import and NL VAT taxes.
    No, I'll just stick to the order I've placed .

    Speaking of..... Only a couple of more days until the arrival of my brand new Surface Pro 2 . The Surface is still set to beeing delivered on the 21st of october. The Type Cover 2 is currently beeing delayed until the 26th . Too bad...that will mean that I can't really take the Surface Pro 2 with me the first week because I've got no protection bag. The plan was to use the Type Cover 2 as screen protection. Or do you people advice me to buy a protection bag anyway?

    I've already made a list of software programs I'm going to install when it arrives.
    • MS Office Professional 2010 edition ==> I've got a spare HomeUseProgram licence lying around since I've upgraded my Desktop machine to Office 2013. And since I do a lot of programming in VB and VBA I'll need the full Office pack instead of the mobile pack;
    • MSE ==> yup...I'm sticking to the basics when it comes to antivirus. It's been working for me so far;
    • VideoLAN ==> I'm still not sure though. I want to be able to play VOB files. On my Desktop machine I can use Nero2014. But I am obviously not going to install that onto the Surface Pro 2. Perhaps you people have other suggestions for me?;
    • Keepass ==> for the passwordscontainer I use ;
    • Steam ==> to play Civ5 (I know...low settings etc. But that doesn't matter for me);
    • Winzip;
    • Notepad++ ==> for programming;
    • And ofcourse a lot of apps. I.e. the app from my bank, some news and traffic information apps and a webradio app.



    Well. That's it for now. I hope the order will not be delayed any further.

    See you soon!

    Rover


    ps. I almost forgot ==> ofcourse I'm also going to install some of the wonderfull Wallpaper Packs made by hb860 ==> https://www.eightforums.com/customiza...papers-39.html
    Last edited by Der Snoober; 13 Oct 2013 at 08:30.
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  7. #17


    Posts : 56
    windows 8.1 Pro


    All I want is a purple type cover 2 but it constantly says "coming soon" on Microsoft's store.
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  8. #18


    Arnhem, The Netherlands
    Posts : 1,412
    Windows 8.1 Pro x64 Media Center Edition


    For all you Dutch people around here considering buying a Surface 2 ==> Surface - Microsoft Store Nederland Onlinewinkel

    Microsoft Netherlands is offering a €40 off discount if you order the Surface 32 gb version today or tomorrow.



    Quote Originally Posted by livewire View Post
    All I want is a purple type cover 2 but it constantly says "coming soon" on Microsoft's store.
    Hi Livewire,

    In The Netherlands you can only order the black Type Cover 2. The coloured versions are going on sale in 2014. I guess this is also the case in the UK. In my opinion this is due to a simple fact:
    • Microsoft only ordered a few coloured Type Cover's;
    • The launch them first in the USA only to see if people will want to buy a coloured Type Cover 2;
    • After the initial launch they will know how likely it is people will buy one;
    • After that they will start supplying the rest of the world.


    Unfortunately for you and me this means we will have to wait months. Or simply buy a classic black one.


    Greetz,

    Rover
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  9. #19


    Posts : 2
    Win 8 Pro Media Center


    Have fun, I got the Surface Pro 2 weeks before they announced the Surface Pro 2 .
    Still love it I bought it instead of a laptop for going back to school and it is great. Running Office 365 on the Surface and at home with Skydrive makes the transition from Surface to desktop seamless except I keep poking the desktop screen. I also like the pen that comes with the Surface Pro.
    Enjoy the Surface Pro 2, Congratulations on the anniversary at work!
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  10. #20


    Posts : 23
    Windows 8.1


    As the former owner of a Surface RT, Surface Pro and current owner of a ThinkPad Tablet 2 I have to admit to having Zero interest in the Surface Pro 2. Its essentially an overpriced Laptop with a tiny screen and a MEH form factor. The Asus ZenBook Prime would be where I put my money. The surface IS a tablet but you have to pay extra to get things to make it a laptop again. This makes no sense to me. The ZenBook, to me, is a better buy.. Just my 2cents.

    Everyone thinks they want a tablet, but they really want both a tablet and a laptop... I just don't see the SP2 doing any better than the SP, but I could be wrong. The dock and the battery keyboard, two things that should have been around from the beginning are not available until 'sometime' in 2014. The dock seems to be a bit of an after thought as it clamps into the unit from the sides rather the unit having a data spine that allows it to be docked ala' ThinkPad Tablet 2 or other devices that were designed to dock.

    With Windows 8 and all the Microsoft recent releases, it feels like they didn't think things out. Windows 8 enough said. The Surface RT, ok when you finish laughing, seriously though WOW. The SP had 4 hours of battery life, no dock and some goofy firmware issues. If the SP was a tablet designed for working, why was the dock completely left out? If RT was intended to be a more easily managed device for the enterprise (8.1) as well as a consumer device why did it ship with Home and Student version of Office and have NO Ability to join a domain? I have said this before I will say it again:

    There is a Microsoft shaped hole in the wall left when executives utterly panicked over Apples meteoric success and went rushing off trying to copy the Apple business model. So now you have tablets no one wants to buy, 900 Million dollar write-down RT's to say nothing of lackluster SP1 sales, and Microsoft's core customers in the Enterprise left scratching their heads and continuing to figure out how to manage iPad's and Phones they would prefer didn't exist in their support arena. Nice going Microsoft. AWESOME.
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