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Gonna install an SSD on my laptop, few questions

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    Loulé, Algarve
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    Windows 7 Home Premium x64

    Gonna install an SSD on my laptop, few questions


    Hi guys. I was planning on buying a Samsung 840 Pro 128gb for my laptop, to experience the wonders of a SSD for the first time. I chose that one because it's at an acessible price for me, and because I love Samsung and everybody on the internet says you can't go wrong with their SSD's.

    Anyway, I have a few questions before I dive into the world of SSD's:

    - My laptop's chipset is SATA II (Intel HM55). I know it stops me from experiencing the SSD's top potential, but will it still be incredibly faster than my s***ty 5400 HDD?
    - What would be the first thing to do when you install the SSD? Install the OS and then update the controller, right?
    - I'm worried about the life of the SSD, since i've heard people say it can last around 60 years and others say about a week if used uncorrectly. I use my PC for video editing and the ocasional internet browsing, will the video editing hurt the SSD's lifetime? I've heard constant writing on the drive is what makes it "slowly die", so would that mean watching alot of Youtube videos hurts the life of the drive?
    - Does it matter how much RAM I have, to make use of the SSD's speed? I have 8, and can upgrade to 16...

    That's about it...for now xD Sorry for the long post, I just want to feel confortable and know as much as I can before I start working with SSD's.

    Thank you for your time.

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    Hello Kratos,

    Congratulations. You will notice a nice increase in performance and response by using the SSD versus that old 5400 spinner.

    Today's SSDs can be treated just like any other hard drive. One exception is that you would only TRIM a SSD and defrag a HDD. Windows 8 will take care of that automatically for you though.
    While SATA III (600 MB/s) would be better, SATA II (300 MB/s) is fine though since your rarely see full speeds. The Samsung 840 Pro 128gb has up to 530 MB/s sequential read speed and up to 390 MB/s sequential write speed.

    I'd say after you install Windows 8, you could just install your chipset, SATA/AHCI, and other drivers as usual. Nothing special for the SSD needs to be done.

    Whether this was a HDD or SSD, all drives have a finite read and write lifespan. The more you do, the sooner you reach the drives end of life. However, even under heavy usage, it will still last years though.

    How much RAM you have will have no impact on the speed of the SSD, but since you do video editing, faster and more RAM can help to decrease how long it takes to render video. If you have a lot opened and running at the same time, then more RAM will help with that as well.

    Hope this helps,
    Shawn
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    Loulé, Algarve
    Posts : 52
    Windows 7 Home Premium x64


    Wow, thank you so much for the excellent reply

    I actually was aware that the defrag of Windows 8 sent TRIM notes to an SSD instead of defragging, I made a thread here once and and when I posted a link saying so a few users we're surprised xD

    If SSD's are evolving to the point where they can be treated the same as HDD's, I wonder why many people had SSD's fail in days of use...

    But anyway thanks again, Brink
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    You're welcome. I suppose it could have been a dud, damaged at one point, or they abused it.
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    Loulé, Algarve
    Posts : 52
    Windows 7 Home Premium x64


    That's my main fear, because i've heard TONS of people complaining about SSD's failing frequently
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    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
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    The reliability of some of the early SSD's were not so good. People went to extra lengths to reduce the amount of writes to the drive. Writing data to the drive is what ultimately wears the cells out. This is one of the reasons current operating systems like Windows 7 and Windows 8 will disable defragging an SSD. That and it has no effect on performance. On my laptop that has SSD's I disabled indexing, disabled hibernation, and turned off system restore. Some would call this overkill so all I can say is decide for yourself. I never use sleep or hibernation anyway so I disabled it at the command line. This eliminates the hyberfile,sys file from being created. System Restore has never worked for me so I turned that off too. That eliminates another hidden folder and will free up some more space. If you use the search function a lot you may want to leave indexing on. I don't so I turned it off. Indexing does a lot of writes, at least that's what I have read. Like I said though, read up on it and decide for yourself.
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    Loulé, Algarve
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    Windows 7 Home Premium x64


    I never use hibernation or system restore as well, thanks for the tip

    Not sure about indexing. I don't think I use it often, but i'll disable it as well. If I notice that it changes my usual use, i'll turn it on then. I want my SSD to last as much as possible xD
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    Orbiting the Moon
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    It's exactly what I had in mind: now having a nice Samsung 840 improving performance.

    Chances are that it's already upgraded to the latest firmware in factory.

    Link with the software and firmware:
    Samsung SSD | Samsung Semiconductor Global Website

    I see you got some very good tips from very good members already.
    I've also disabled the system restore but I leave the pagefile on the SSD, as recommended. There are not many writes to the pagefile, mostly reads. I've used some pretty heavy virtual machines on a HDD and the pagefile on SSD is now 16GB (for 16GB RAM).
    I keep if there because the system is stable and there is place for it to spare.

    The boot is very fast, you usually get on the desktop in 12 - 25 seconds depending on the hardware capabilities and startup programs.

    Don't throw your 5400 HDD away, put it as the second drive: you will have a hybrid system combining the best of both worlds.
    I do video editing myself from time to time and I can tell you that creating a temp folder on the spinner is way better than the SSD because of the many writes and because the spinner is usually bigger than the SSD, giving you more temporary video space, even though it's slower.
    If the OS and programs are on the SSD, you already get the most needed improvement.

    Depending on the laptop size, there will be place for two disks or not.
    "this laptop is not big enough for both of us... or is it?", said Solid to Spinner.

    In my case: 15inch laptop had it's DVD-drive removed to put the HDD in it's place and the SSD was put in the first SATA slot where the HDD was. I boot with usb sticks in case the OS needs to be reinstalled, the DVD is an external souvenir but other PC can cover that for me.

    All works very good.

    One tip:
    HP and some other manufacturers will check for hardware modifications during BIOS and firmware updates and those might fail if they don't detect the DVD drive or, in a pretty worst case, the HDD in their initial positions. Something you choose yourself: If you still consider a BIOS update, do it while the HDD and the DVD are in their initial slots and afterwards upgrade to SSD.

    Cheers!
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    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
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    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    My laptop has dual drive bays, likely due to its large size, it has 17 inch screen. I splurged and bought two SSD's. A 128GB for the OS and a 256GB for Data. If I had had only the one drive bay it would have been a 256GB SSD or maybe even a 500GB SSD. The ~300 I spent for the two drives was right in my budget so that's what I did. The original 750 GB spinner went into an external enclosure for backup. Its about 12 seconds for my boot time.
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    Loulé, Algarve
    Posts : 52
    Windows 7 Home Premium x64


    Oh right, forgot about the pagefile! I've heard things from "pagefile is ESSENTIAL" to "pagefile is USELESS" xD

    I suppose i'll keep it on the SSD. Like you say, most of the time the OS is just reading it. But is there any need to keep it so big? I mean if I were to upgrade to 16 RAM, would a 16gb pagefile be really necessary?
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