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Adjusting for a new SSD drive

  1. #1


    Portland, OR
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    Windows 8.1 Pro

    Adjusting for a new SSD drive


    I have recently upgraded hardware on my desktop. The major change is that I installed a new Solid State Drive as my drive C:. I think I also read somewhere that these drives "don't like" being written on too much and that one needs to enable/disable certain OS features for such drives.

    So I checked the properties for the drive C in Windows 8 and here's what I got:

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    As you see "Allow files on this drive to have contents indexed in addition to file properties" is checked.

    Does it need to be checked for that drive?

    And also, is there anything else that I need to change in the settings to accommodate for the SSD?

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  2. #2


    Posts : 1,093
    Windows 8 Pro Windows 8.1 Preview


    Hello dc2000,

    I personally have opted to uncheck that option because the inherent speed of the SSD is adequate for searches without the need for indexing (which runs as a background process). You can uncheck it but be aware that your SSD will take off like a shot and unindex everthing it has indexed thus far (takes a bit of time to complete). Now, as far as optimizing the SSD, there are plenty of tutorials but the only other option that I recommend is to turn off defrag on a scheduled basis. Windows 8 has an inherent function called TRIMS and that is all that is needed to keep you SSD running smoothly. The other stuff, like turning off super-fetch, etc, I don't even bother with. Good luck.
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  3. #3


    Portland, OR
    Posts : 68
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Thanks. What about disabling page file?
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  4. #4


    Orbiting the Moon
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    Windows 10 x64


    Quote Originally Posted by JustATest View Post
    there are plenty of tutorials but the only other option that I recommend is to turn off defrag on a scheduled basis. Windows 8 has an inherent function called TRIMS and that is all that is needed to keep you SSD running smoothly. The other stuff, like turning off super-fetch, etc, I don't even bother with. Good luck.
    They say defrag is already disabled for SSD's on Win8.
    The system runs maintenance in the background but it's ssd-aware.
    Good thing not to disable superfetch, it does it's work.
    Keep the pagefile on the SSD and keep it fixed, 1-2GB in size is more than enough on usual user systems.
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  5. #5


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    Quote Originally Posted by dc2000 View Post
    Thanks. What about disabling page file?
    If you do not have a great deal of experience in that area, I would leave it alone; however, if you absolutely need to know more, I will try to explain but I don't want to turn this thread into a podium for disagreement between forum members. Your SSD has adequate space to easily support the page file so I say do not touch!
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  6. #6


    Portland, OR
    Posts : 68
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    @JustATest
    : Yes, I think I can handle it. I also have a regular HDD as D: with 2TB storage space. My RAM is 16GB but I may run a bunch of VMs on it, plus I have a tandency of keeping a ton of Google Chrome tabs open that eat up a lot of RAM. So I'm assuming that a page file may be used in some situations.

    I was thinking to redirect it to use drive D. Is such possible? Or even a good idea?
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    Windows 8 Pro Windows 8.1 Preview


    Quote Originally Posted by dc2000 View Post
    @JustATest
    : Yes, I think I can handle it. I also have a regular HDD as D: with 2TB storage space. My RAM is 16GB but I may run a bunch of VMs on it, plus I have a tandency of keeping a ton of Google Chrome tabs open that eat up a lot of RAM. So I'm assuming that a page file may be used in some situations.

    I was thinking to redirect it to use drive D. Is such possible? Or even a good idea?
    OK, with 16GBs of RAM, you do not need a paging file; period! I have run XP w/3GBs of RAM, Win7 w/4GBs of RAM, Win8 w/8GBs of RAM and Win 8.1 w/8Gbs of RAM. I have never had a single BSOD, I do a fair amount of graphics and movie editing. Now be prepared for the masses to waring you about watching a 20GB video and the consequences thereof (or similar situation). As I said, I didn't want to turn this into a podium for debate but you asked for additional information and I provided it accordingly. The only downside to disabling the paging file is that you may get an associated Event Viewer log warning that crash dumps cannot be initialized and large kernel dumps will not be saved. This is my last response to this thread so good luck in whatever decision you may make. BTW, I have done several Win 8 installations recently, and they all had scheduled defarg enabled. Good luck.
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    Orbiting the Moon
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    Windows 10 x64


    Quote Originally Posted by JustATest View Post
    OK, with 16GBs of RAM, you do not need a paging file; period!
    Should do but to be 100% safe, keep a small one:
    "System Managed" Paging File Seems Low
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  9. #9


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
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    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    I turned indexing off, disabled the page file, disabled hibernation to remove the hyperfile.sys file, and turned system restore off. To some that will seem excessive. I am prepared to deal with any consequences from this decision. The few times I've used system restore it didn't fix the issue so I won't loos any sleep by turning it off. My laptop boots up in about 10 seconds and that's with fast boot etc turned off. I never use hibernate or sleep on it anyway so I disabled hibernation from the command line.
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  10. #10


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    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    You should consider leaving 25% or so free space on your SSD to keep performance high. With TRIM enabled, as it is by default, you shouldn't need to overprovision by leaving space unallocated, though it doesn't hurt, and it enforces the policy.

    For my 16 GB system, I set the pagefile to 1 GB minimum and 16 GB maximum. I see it's currently allocated to 1.7 GB while I'm using HandBrake, even though my System Commit is only 4 GB per Sysinternals Process Explorer. I've since rebooted following a power outage, and it's still 1.7 GB. Other than trying to avoid data leakage when using encrypted containers, I don't know of any legit reason to disable the pagefile. ETA: I fooled myself. My "reboot" was from hibernation. I've since done a real reboot, and the pagefile is back to 1 GB.

    I was delighted to find that 7x64 automatically disabled StupidFetch and ReadyBoot when I recently reinstalled 7x64, which is otherwise part of my 25 step plan for all new installs. It didn't do this the last time I installed Windows on my Samsung 830. I TrueCrypt all my drives, and the difference this time has to be the AES instructions on my new i5-4670 build. My previous i5-750 didn't support the instructions, and apparently this adversely affected Windows' decision-making process WRT those useless services, which are among several I originally began disabling when using hard drives to stop the incessant disk grinding that otherwise characterizes Windows. I never observed any degradation in performance after disabling them, but my computer was a lot quieter.

    Concerning hibernation, I leave it on, but I do turn off Hybrid Sleep on my main system, which I sleep several times a day, to avoid writing extra tens of GB per day to the SSD. It's connected to an APC XS1500, and the PowerChute software will wake the system from sleep to hibernate it when there is a power outage, like the one we had just a couple of hours ago. For my gaming system, I leave Hybrid Sleep enabled, but it has only 8 GB RAM, I sleep it much less frequently, and it isn't overseen by PowerChute, so there's no safety net should a power outage occur during sleep.

    And indexing? Leave it on, and install PDF-XChange Viewer or equivalent to get an IFilter that will index PDF files.
    Last edited by crawfish; 27 Jul 2013 at 22:10.
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