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Will the tablet replace the PC

  1. #41


    Quote Originally Posted by Durahl View Post
    Not now, not tomorrow but someday I'll expect the stationary PC to vanish from the private sector with the likes of a Surface PRO taking their place.

    I see it like that... While on the move you use your Tablet-PC as a Tablet with hardware that goes easy on the batteries while still providing "good" performance for longer periods of travel.

    Back at home you plug it into a Docking Station that allows the hardware to go into full rage mode giving you the performance of your todays gaming machines. This Dock gives access to like 3-4 Displays, has connectivity for a dedicated Graphic- and Soundcard and will let you use all your peripherals you own since it has all the USB/FireWire/ThunderBolt Plugs in masses.

    It'll also house most of your data on higher capacity HDD's and serve as a remote system you can connect to from your Tablet-PC while on the move ( IF you're connected to the Internet ).
    Hello, Durahl. Welcome to Windows EightForums. It's good to have you aboard.

    That's more like it. Someone who can think creatively and has insight of the possible future.

    We cannot assume that devices will remain the same or even that the tower PC will survive. The Surfaces and other hybrids are the first of their kind. They too will, of course, evolve into smaller and more powerful devices. We still have more time for this to occur according to Moore's law, which even then is not the end of the road, for we have the science of Molecular Electronics which could quite possibly create a way to make components even smaller. Heck, we may even be able to Bluetooth our wrist watches to a docking station as you describe.

    Moore's law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Molecular electronics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The battery which remains somewhat of a hindrance of being mobile may even be replaced some day with instant charge and longer life:

    Electric double-layer capacitor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Nothing stated there isn't to a large degree available right now, for example:

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    And mobile phones have been able to control home devices for some time, if the appropriate connected devices are installed. Many have security cameras installed that can be accessed on their mobile phone, or start heating/air-conditioning before leaving for home etc.
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  3. #43


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Durahl View Post
    Not now, not tomorrow but someday I'll expect the stationary PC to vanish from the private sector with the likes of a Surface PRO taking their place.

    I see it like that... While on the move you use your Tablet-PC as a Tablet with hardware that goes easy on the batteries while still providing "good" performance for longer periods of travel.

    Back at home you plug it into a Docking Station that allows the hardware to go into full rage mode giving you the performance of your todays gaming machines. This Dock gives access to like 3-4 Displays, has connectivity for a dedicated Graphic- and Soundcard and will let you use all your peripherals you own since it has all the USB/FireWire/ThunderBolt Plugs in masses.

    It'll also house most of your data on higher capacity HDD's and serve as a remote system you can connect to from your Tablet-PC while on the move ( IF you're connected to the Internet ).
    I'm not sure how a tablet can suddenly go from mild to wild just by attaching it to a docking station, unless you mean the docking station has additional hardware that enhances performance. What you then talking about is having a desktop PC to which your tablet attaches.

    That's really no different to having a dedicated PC.
    That's basically the point, an external dock with external dedicated hardware with more I/O ports. Difference here is that the main "core" of that setup is the tablet PC that is thin and light and you take with you. You seriously going around lugging a desktop with you on the go?
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    Those who need desktop capability, will most likely have a desktop attached to their peripherals, rather than have what is ostensibly half a desktop waiting for the other half. Those who eschew large desktops, have the choice of much smaller footprints if they wish, for example:

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    That was something I was already pitching in 2010. But that is not me talking, I only used that example in a presentation at my computer club.

    A Mobile Minute with the Motorola Atrix 4Gs Docking Options
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  6. #46


    This:

    Quote Originally Posted by Durahl View Post
    Not now, not tomorrow but someday I'll expect the stationary PC to vanish from the private sector with the likes of a Surface PRO taking their place.

    I see it like that... While on the move you use your Tablet-PC as a Tablet with hardware that goes easy on the batteries while still providing "good" performance for longer periods of travel.

    Back at home you plug it into a Docking Station that allows the hardware to go into full rage mode giving you the performance of your todays gaming machines. This Dock gives access to like 3-4 Displays, has connectivity for a dedicated Graphic- and Soundcard and will let you use all your peripherals you own since it has all the USB/FireWire/ThunderBolt Plugs in masses.
    It'll also house most of your data on higher capacity HDD's and serve as a remote system you can connect to from your Tablet-PC while on the move ( IF you're connected to the Internet ).
    Is not speaking of this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Those who need desktop capability, will most likely have a desktop attached to their peripherals, rather than have what is ostensibly half a desktop waiting for the other half. Those who eschew large desktops, have the choice of much smaller footprints if they wish, for example:

    Click image for larger version
    But rather this:

    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    That was something I was already pitching in 2010. But that is not me talking, I only used that example in a presentation at my computer club.\

    A Mobile Minute with the Motorola Atrix 4Gs Docking Options
    Thank you, whs.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Nothing stated there isn't to a large degree available right now, for example:

    And mobile phones have been able to control home devices for some time, if the appropriate connected devices are installed. Many have security cameras installed that can be accessed on their mobile phone, or start heating/air-conditioning before leaving for home etc.
    In size perhaps, but not memory or CPU speed. They will be able to cram more electronics within the same or smaller volume to achieve greater computing power. And don't forget the watch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Those who need desktop capability, will most likely have a desktop attached to their peripherals, rather than have what is ostensibly half a desktop waiting for the other half. Those who eschew large desktops, have the choice of much smaller footprints if they wish, for example:

    Click image for larger version
    What's the point of having a miniITX based desktop when right now and in a few years from now, tablet PCs will have similar processing power with increased energy efficiency? Why keep a separate stationary desktop box (especially since the AIO form factor is more likely than anything to be further developed upon hardware wise, let alone the fact that's what would be more desirable to an average consumer) when a tablet PC has very good processing power as it is; then increased with external processing hardware? Only if you need heavy graphical processing, a desktop is the way to go. But if you're doing more common tasks with an occasional intensive task, that's not economically worth it let alone worth having the two separate PCs.
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    [QUOTE=HippsieGypsie;220868]
    Is not speaking of this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Those who need desktop capability, will most likely have a desktop attached to their peripherals, rather than have what is ostensibly half a desktop waiting for the other half. Those who eschew large desktops, have the choice of much smaller footprints if they wish, for example:

    Click image for larger version
    I fully understand what he was referring to; however, why have two disparate pieces of hardware that require to be joined to become a functional device? Note also the complexity of such devices, you will be locked into the specific manufacturer for tablet and docking station. Also, see response below.

    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    What's the point of having a miniITX based desktop when right now and in a few years from now, tablet PCs will have similar processing power with increased energy efficiency? Why keep a separate stationary desktop box (especially since the AIO form factor is more likely than anything to be further developed upon hardware wise, let alone the fact that's what would be more desirable to an average consumer) when a tablet PC has very good processing power as it is; then increased with external processing hardware? Only if you need heavy graphical processing, a desktop is the way to go. But if you're doing more common tasks with an occasional intensive task, that's not economically worth it let alone worth having the two separate PCs.
    And anything that you can cram into a tablet, you can cram even moreso into a dedicated mini-PC.

    However, if you want to talk about future capability, how about a mini PC (or whatever) that is permanently connected and monitoring activities in your home and abroad? If you have to connect your tablet to the docking station to attain a functional PC, then the docking station etc are devices with no functional capability in the meantime.

    When we start to talk about connected homes, there has to be a resident PC or the like providing that permanent connection. It can't be your tablet that's in your backpack or whatever when away from home. That computer sitting at home may be programmed to undertake many functions, set the household temperature, monitor garden watering systems, security, feed the dogs, take a messages from doorknockers etc and provide you with an alert, and any number of other tasks.

    Also, what if you have numerous family members that need a computer, are you now locked into buying every member the exact same device to ensure compatibility with the docking station? What if the manufacturer changes the design, suddenly your docking station won't work with the new devices (though no manufacturer would do that). What if another manufacturer comes out with something really special by way of a tablet, but it's not compatible with your docking station? Your docking station breaks, but they don't make that model anymore, because they only make ones for the new design. Oh, well.
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    I had this smallest PC running Win 8 for a week until I decided to return it and get something abt 1/3 the size of a regular pc.
    This Lenovo is about the size of a regular router that can be connected at the back of any TV with included brackets. It is fast and smooth but feels so fragile that it may just overheat and burnout anytime. Great htpc system but I worry about the durability.

    Last edited by fourthofjuly; 14 Apr 2013 at 14:59.
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  10. #50


    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    Is not speaking of this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Those who need desktop capability, will most likely have a desktop attached to their peripherals, rather than have what is ostensibly half a desktop waiting for the other half. Those who eschew large desktops, have the choice of much smaller footprints if they wish, for example:

    Click image for larger version
    I fully understand what he was referring to; however, why have two disparate pieces of hardware that require to be joined to become a functional device? Note also the complexity of such devices, you will be locked into the specific manufacturer for tablet and docking station. Also, see response below.
    So what if one is tied to a particular manufacturer? Most devices are that way. Apple, Android, Motorola, and others are very much chord/device/docking specific. e.g. Every other smart phone on the planet uses mini USB for charging/tethering, but no, not iPhone. It needs it's own type of chord. How convenient.

    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    What's the point of having a miniITX based desktop when right now and in a few years from now, tablet PCs will have similar processing power with increased energy efficiency? Why keep a separate stationary desktop box (especially since the AIO form factor is more likely than anything to be further developed upon hardware wise, let alone the fact that's what would be more desirable to an average consumer) when a tablet PC has very good processing power as it is; then increased with external processing hardware? Only if you need heavy graphical processing, a desktop is the way to go. But if you're doing more common tasks with an occasional intensive task, that's not economically worth it let alone worth having the two separate PCs.
    And anything that you can cram into a tablet, you can cram even moreso into a dedicated mini-PC.

    However, if you want to talk about future capability, how about a mini PC (or whatever) that is permanently connected and monitoring activities in your home and abroad? If you have to connect your tablet to the docking station to attain a functional PC, then the docking station etc are devices with no functional capability in the meantime.

    When we start to talk about connected homes, there has to be a resident PC or the like providing that permanent connection. It can't be your tablet that's in your backpack or whatever when away from home. That computer sitting at home may be programmed to undertake many functions, set the household temperature, monitor garden watering systems, security, feed the dogs, take a messages from doorknockers etc and provide you with an alert, and any number of other tasks.
    For obvious reasons "Smart House" needs it's own dedicated unit, not sharing it with one that dwells there. Besides we're not speaking of a whole lot of computing power with this.

    Also, what if you have numerous family members that need a computer, are you now locked into buying every member the exact same device to ensure compatibility with the docking station? What if the manufacturer changes the design, suddenly your docking station won't work with the new devices (though no manufacturer would do that). What if another manufacturer comes out with something really special by way of a tablet, but it's not compatible with your docking station? Your docking station breaks, but they don't make that model anymore, because they only make ones for the new design. Oh, well.
    What if....What if...What if the fox stops to take a crap? It'll never catch the rabbit! Stretching it with your "What if" scenarios here aren't you? Sometimes I think you write just so to read your own words. Geez. How about every user has their own specific docking station for their specific device? How about nothing really lasts that long anyway?! It seems the smaller a device the less it lasts, especially mobile devices due to drops, lid hinges, screens, and the like.
    Last edited by HippsieGypsie; 14 Apr 2013 at 08:59.
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