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Will the tablet replace the PC

  1. #11


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    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Why is everybody so sold on the MacBook Air. There are much better and more powerful laptops for less money. And regarding the small form factor, there are quite a few Ultrabooks too - for less money. Just wondering.
    Because they're anorexic netbooks.

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  2. #12


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Lee, I hear you. For navigation you may manage with touch but for typing you still need a keyboard. And if I see these ridiculous 10" tablets with that itty bitty keyboard in front, I can only think that this is a retarded laptop.

    In that case I prefer my 7" Nexus. At least it is really portable and suffices for information consumption, entertainment, trip navigation and trip planning. And sometimes I even use it to make phone calls because I have no cell phone and the VoIP is free.
    Hi WHS,

    My youngest son (40) can type faster on his iPad 3G then must people can on a standard keyboard. People are learning, and some have even discovered that a Bluetooth Keyboard with a built in cover allows them to use a tablet in almost the same manner as a laptop. My oldest (44) travels of over the planet (his job), and he as replaced his laptop with a Surface pro thus with the keyboard he can do just about everything a laptop does.

    We who are over the magic number of sixty-five are being left behind, and sometimes it is just hard to see in what direction the younger generation is going. It is their world now; no longer ours.
    This is true, I'm getting to the point where I can ALMOST be able to tap type on my Windows Phone without having to look down at it. It is intense. I can also tap type on a Surface tablet pretty quickly without having to adjust to it. If I were, I'd imagine I'd look like Data from Star Trek.
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  3. #13


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    I kind of think that question was skewed some on an android forum where the most power you can get on such a device is like a Tegra 3 quad core ARM processor....

    Now what happens if a tablet had PC power, such as a Surface Pro? What happens when you take x86 processing hardware that is more powerful and more energy efficient than current hardware on a tablet? The distinction between "tablet" (definition set by apple) and a "PC" is blurred. It's a hybrid device. What you can do on a laptop is done with a Surface Pro for example. Some things are limited, but can be easily expanded, such as storage.

    Now, I'd prefer an 11 inch tablet PC. That's a better size, but the Surface Pro is like 10.6...

    Speaking of physical keyboards, an idea struck me. What if a keyboard folded up in half length wise? You'd have a literal full sized keyboard on a tablet. Take a Surface, add a keyboard (ideally a chiclet style keyboard like a Logitech K750) and that's basically the scenario.
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  4. #14


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    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Why is everybody so sold on the MacBook Air. There are much better and more powerful laptops for less money. And regarding the small form factor, there are quite a few Ultrabooks too - for less money. Just wondering.
    Don't know about everybody, but my main Laptop is a MacBook Pro. Also, I have an iPad and and an iPhone. The MacBook Air fits in very well with the other machines, syncing, etc.

    I like quite a few of the new PC's that now are competitive with the Air (i.e., at least my several year old one). I like the ASUS Zen Book and the HP Specter especially. I think they are overpriced though. Performance between Airs' and their competitors ebbs and flows with new releases. Mine is new enough to have Thunderbolt--which is a very good thing. Also, has SSD and adequate processor an RAM (mine not top of the line)--just for out and about use. I tether it with my iPhone and use 4G LTE from the iPhone when on public networks.

    Performance is one thing, but, IMO, no PC holds up like a Mac, is as well built, or provides as good support/service, etc. Dell XPS and "special" Gateway service used to be competitive, but no more. PC's are catching up style wise (note the two mentioned above especially).

    I like Macs in general because, although I have minor complaints about how things are shaping up in the Mac world, I don't have serious MS, OS, and OEM issues (e.g., OS design, OEM preinstalled Win8 issues, etc). I like PC's because you can "play with them."

    I also like Windows forums. Many of those on Mac forums are among the most arrogant I have ever run across. They tend to be the relatively new "experts" and not those that have been around for a very long time. And, they say some of the darnedest things. Then, the real neophytes (i.e., the Apple zombie parrots) parrot them verbatim. A recent funny one is as follows. I had a question about Parallels 8 and Win8 (i.e., I use parallels 8 to run Win8 virtually on my MacBook Pro--not to get the wrong idea about my machines--check my sig). A relatively new guy replied (i.e., I have about a "million" more points on the Apple forums than he does). Anyway, he noted that I was "new to the Apple forums," and he informed me that my question was not welcome. He said basically that "these are the Apple forums, and we don't deal with non-Apple products here." I am sure it hurt when I informed him that we were in the "Windows" section of the Apple forums.

    Don't know how I got off on the story. May someone will enjoy.
    Last edited by znod; 07 Apr 2013 at 09:52.
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  5. #15


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Lee, I hear you. For navigation you may manage with touch but for typing you still need a keyboard. And if I see these ridiculous 10" tablets with that itty bitty keyboard in front, I can only think that this is a retarded laptop.

    In that case I prefer my 7" Nexus. At least it is really portable and suffices for information consumption, entertainment, trip navigation and trip planning. And sometimes I even use it to make phone calls because I have no cell phone and the VoIP is free.
    Hi WHS,

    My youngest son (40) can type faster on his iPad 3G then must people can on a standard keyboard. People are learning, and some have even discovered that a Bluetooth Keyboard with a built in cover allows them to use a tablet in almost the same manner as a laptop. My oldest (44) travels of over the planet (his job), and he as replaced his laptop with a Surface pro thus with the keyboard he can do just about everything a laptop does.

    We who are over the magic number of sixty-five are being left behind, and sometimes it is just hard to see in what direction the younger generation is going. It is their world now; no longer ours.
    I haven't seen any serious research tools on tablets yet, e.g., the SPSS statistical package, huge data sets, etc., etc. Doing serious research on a tablet is not going to happen for a very, very long time--actually not likely to happen ever (but could perhaps). And, in general there is a long list of things that I don't think ever will be practical on a tablet.

    Can't agree on the "magic number" thing nor that "it is their world now." I'm more than keeping up.
    Last edited by znod; 07 Apr 2013 at 12:52.
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  6. #16


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    Hi Lee,

    I may be old, but I am not hostile to new technology. Just the opposite - if I think it can be useful for me and if I can afford it, I buy it. I enjoy my tablet very much but I would never get the idea of doing real work on it - although I can get all the programs that are required. I even have a full blown office suite (that I paid for). But I have only been tinkering around with it.

    My son (47) who has his own business and builds his own PCs is a real tech guru. He told me that he sees little use of tablets in his daily work in the office. He has a couple tablets that he uses only when travelling.

    I think Ray on the eightforum said it correctly: There is a place for each of these devices and they will continue to coexist (that is paraphrased by me).
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  7. #17


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    The tablet will replace nothing at all, ever. Too big to replace a smart phone, too cumbersome to replace a laptop... and simply too ridiculous to even conceive of it replacing a desktop pc. Imho, of course....
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  8. #18


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    All of them will continue to co-exist; each device, PC, laptop, tablet fills a need. There can be some overlap, but not everyone can do everything on a tablet. And who wants to stare at a small screen all day and use less than effective input methods?
    ^^^ This ^^^
    Certainly, tablets will take some of the PC market since there are some who use PCs only for web browsing, email, etc. And there are indeed hybrids which will dock into a full keyboard, etc. But ultimately the screen size will become an issue. Larger screen size is needed for some applications, but it won't be practical to lug around a large screen. The future of flexible, foldable, wrappable screens might change this dynamic a bit.
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  9. #19


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    LOL, I can just see the guy at McDo unpacking his 7" tablet, unfolding his 24" foldable screen, synchronizing his full size BT keyboard and working on an Excel application whilst consuming his McDouble plus a small fries. Those would be the modern times.
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  10. #20


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    I bet this was the question that was asked a decade ago: will the laptop ever replace the desktop? At the time, it was of course the usual straight up no. They were too underpowered, too small of a screen, too small of a keyboard, too small of a touchpad (which was of course inferior to a mouse), battery life couldn't last long and was just something that would coexist with the desktop.

    Fast forward just several years, and the laptop started to ship in similar quantities as the desktop. Go forward a decade after that question was once posed, the desktop has been pretty much declared a dead, or a niche form factor with the laptop the mainstream PC; basically the current modern definition of a computer or PC. Go forward a few years, the tablet is predicted to out sell the laptop.

    So will the tablet replace the laptop? Yes. Will it happen overnight or in a year years. Of course not. It took the laptop form factor several years and LOTS of research and development on behalf of Intel and AMD and many other OEMs to get a decent laptop to begin with, which made it more desirable over a generic black box that wasn't.
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