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$600 seems to be the entry price for touch

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    $600 seems to be the entry price for touch


    I was reading the Sunday ads and at Staples they show 4 laptops with touchscreens all around $600. They are from Lenovo, Dell, Acer and HP (which is a convertible). Processors are i5,i3 and Atom. I think the Lenovo is probably the nicest deal.

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    You might want to play with a touch screen lap top or wait till someone that has one can comment. Unless the hinges are stronger on them I'd think there might be problems keeping contact without readjusting the screen position often. My All In One takes a little pressure to make things work.

    Also you might want to take a look at Lenovo's forum and see what is said of their service, it is not pretty. There service is nill and many of the questions go unanswered. They have not supplied drivers for windows 8 for those they encouraged to update from windows 7 either.

    If you opt for the Lenovo, be sure to burn the restore disks, you do not want to buy them from Lenovo, my AIO disks were 60 bucks when I called - needless to say I did not buy them. One person said his were 80.
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    Yeah, unfortunately you are right. Service of most of those companies is dismal. The best used to be Gateway when they were still independent. The service teams were in Utah and South Dakota. But now that they are part of Acer, they are just as bad (from India).

    Burning the recovery disc is a good idea. Better even is to make early images and keep those.
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    you should have your touchscreen checked out. if it's capacitive screen, there should be zero pressure needed to make it work. I'd understand if it was a resistive screen but I doubt any modern AIO has a resistive screen.
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    When I installed windows 8 one of the several problems windows informed me would be a problem is that the touchscreen is not compatible with 8. I did get a hint on this board that allows me to get to the charms menu finally but the touch is not what it was on 7. I've calibrated a number of times with little to no change.

    It doesn't take a lot of pressure but the laptops I've had I'm guessing they would have been a pain.
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    How about using a stylus. I use that a lot on my tablet and it requires less pressure than with the fingers - and keeps the screen clean of smudges.
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    When I installed windows 8 one of the several problems windows informed me would be a problem is that the touchscreen is not compatible with 8. I did get a hint on this board that allows me to get to the charms menu finally but the touch is not what it was on 7. I've calibrated a number of times with little to no change.

    It doesn't take a lot of pressure but the laptops I've had I'm guessing they would have been a pain.

    Yes, I use a stylus at times. Big shaky fingers make a stylus nice addition :-)
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    exactly what screen do you have?

    because the way a capacitive screen works is conduction of electrical charge. when you touch a screen, your finger is pulling some charge away from the screen. the software detects this decreased charge and can pinpoint its location from it. it's why you can't wear gloves or use a traditional stylus because they don't allow this transfer. it's why the capacitive pens have a stubby end to allow enough surface area to draw charge versus a traditional pen point of a regular stylus.

    a resistive screen works by having multiple layers contact each other and this point of contact is then used to identify the location of the touch. it's why resistive screens aren't that great at swipes. and why a stylus is great because it can maintain a defined point of contact.

    the latest capacitive screens on AIOs and laptops have a layer for the active digitizers so that you can have the capacitive touch but still have a good pen.
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    It is a capacitive but I can run a stylus or my finger up and down with no reaction till I press a little. It is an Elo USB unit from what I've found. Elo gave me a link to their latest driver but it was worse than the generic that windows supplied. Elo said it should work the same with 7 or 8 but not so. Microsoft after the 8 install was quite specific this screen was not compatible. I had the impression they weren't talking about drivers - don't know what they know that I don't know :-)

    The side swipe didn't work at all till someone suggested I reduce the size of the picture slightly with video settings. I brought it in about 1/8 of an inch on all four sides and the swipe works nicely now.

    I've noticed on tablets that capacitive sensitivity varies from update to update as well.
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    Touch on a laptop is pretty nice, I don't see hinges being an issue though. On the Lenovo Yoga, probably yeah. A display model of it wasn't working correctly when you tilt it around and such.

    But in general, they last. Although I think they should make them a tad more stiffer so the screen doesn't move around too much. Actually though, there is this Acer netbook for about 400 dollars I recently saw with a touchscreen. It was weird to see a device that was considered dead due to the tablet form factor back on display with a touch screen and touchy OS.

    100 dollars seems to be the actual add on price to a typical PC. It still pisses me off that a 27 inch touch screen costs an arm and a leg, it's still roughly 100 dollars per extra inch over the standard 23 inches.
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