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$600 seems to be the entry price for touch

  1. #11


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    Well, at the end of the day, touch on a laptop or a desktop is a gimmick. I could not see myself using it with a proper OS. Maybe something the kids will like. It would probably go well for them with the playmobile UI.

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  2. #12


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    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Well, at the end of the day, touch on a laptop or a desktop is a gimmick. I could not see myself using it with a proper OS. Maybe something the kids will like. It would probably go well for them with the playmobile UI.
    Using the mouse was a gimmick when it was first introduced, along with the GUI, but that's not the way it went now did it?

    I've used the modern aspect along with the Desktop on several touchscreens, the thing I have to say is don't rag on it until you've tried it (by trying it, this does not mean poking randomly at it and saying it's awful). On a laptop, touch is just the same as using touch with a tablet, you're closer and personal to it. On a desktop, touch has to be adapted to to a certain extent. It can't be done well when you're sitting four feet away from the screen, the screen needs to tilt down like a drawing easel so you can get closer and personal to it. Size is another factor as well. Motion gesturing will also be great with that setup if you want to use a desktop but don't feel like getting to close to it.
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    I have tried a lot of touchscreens. In 2009 I was close to bying an HP 13" convertible with a touchscreen. But after further consideration I really did not see what advantage that would have.

    The fact that MS now prostitutes the desktop with a tablet UI is not enough reason for me to go touch - the reasons are the same as in 2009 - I don't see any advantage.

    It is handy though on my 7" tablet. There it makes sense. But that is a completely different world. On the tablet I don't do any work. I only consult resources for information.
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  4. #14


    The fact that MS now prostitutes the desktop with a tablet UI is not enough reason for me to go touch - the reasons are the same as in 2009 - I don't see any advantage.
    True. Touch is perfect for small devices, but I really dont see my desks following that path.

    I like a confortable chair and a good mouse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    I have tried a lot of touchscreens. In 2009 I was close to bying an HP 13" convertible with a touchscreen. But after further consideration I really did not see what advantage that would have.

    The fact that MS now prostitutes the desktop with a tablet UI is not enough reason for me to go touch - the reasons are the same as in 2009 - I don't see any advantage.

    It is handy though on my 7" tablet. There it makes sense. But that is a completely different world. On the tablet I don't do any work. I only consult resources for information.
    Prostitutes it... well then!

    I can knock out some Office documents with my 4.5 inch Windows Phone, then go to a Windows RT tablet and knock out some more Office documents, then go on Windows 8 and knock out an AutoCAD drawing, all with touch. That's the world that Microsoft is prostituting themselves out for, three different devices with a similar UI with a similar input. A tablet is still a computing device, but limited terribly by the software and the hardware. Windows 8 changes that. Just because what has been considered a "tablet" for a few years (not regarding the fact that tablets or touch enabled laptops have been around in rarity since xp) isn't the set definition of what it can do or what it should do. Why do I need a different device so I can interact with it through touch when my PC could? Seems deathly pointless to me to keep a PC, a simple tablet, and a smartphone. Too many devices for me when the vast majority can literally be done with a touch PC, and when mobile, a Windows Phone (or smartphone). One device used for everything, one device for cellular communication, which actually, a tablet PC can do with a SIM card and Skype.

    I don't see any advantage in having a superfluous amount of devices just because it's considered "correct" or "proper."
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  6. #16


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    Your world is too complicated for me. All I need is my 22" screen with my desktop and my little $230 tablet for entertainment on the road. I really would like to see you making a spreadsheet on your 4.5" windows phone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Your world is too complicated for me. All I need is my 22" screen with my desktop and my little $230 tablet for entertainment on the road. I really would like to see you making a spreadsheet on your 4.5" windows phone.
    https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resi...BzYgspxLaWVKJQ

    I just made this with my Windows Phone in about a few minutes. Thinking of what to do for an Excel sheet took longer than actually inputting the data.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Your world is too complicated for me. All I need is my 22" screen with my desktop and my little $230 tablet for entertainment on the road. I really would like to see you making a spreadsheet on your 4.5" windows phone.
    https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resi...BzYgspxLaWVKJQ

    I just made this with my Windows Phone in about a few minutes. Thinking of what to do for an Excel sheet took longer than actually inputting the data.
    Good show.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Your world is too complicated for me. All I need is my 22" screen with my desktop and my little $230 tablet for entertainment on the road. I really would like to see you making a spreadsheet on your 4.5" windows phone.
    https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resi...BzYgspxLaWVKJQ

    I just made this with my Windows Phone in about a few minutes. Thinking of what to do for an Excel sheet took longer than actually inputting the data.
    Good show.
    Thank you!

    I can also view PowerPoints made on my PC on Windows Phone, albeit, not always in the same glory. But that's due to the software for some reason, probably because of the device's use and form factor.

    There is also a Word document I can do, that is MUCH easier I'd say. I can already tap type on my Windows Phone pretty quickly as it is (along with a very good auto correct that seems isn't on android and DEFINTELY isn't on ios for sure) and then save it, print it off from my PC's browser, or edit it from that. But there is the potential that Windows Phone 8 handsets should get printing support from the Office hub, honestly, if you take the printer compatibility drivers from Windows 8 and enable that on Windows Phone, , the amount of printers you could wireless use that don't need to be specially made for ios; I would imagine the enterprise would go to the bathroom in their pants. Maybe.
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  10. #20


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    There are several apps in Android that make typing on the screen real easy - including self correction or look ahead where they are suggesting the word if you only typed a couple of letters.
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