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network adapter problems with my win8 upgrade

  1. #11


    Again, what are your system specs? Are you using embedded or external graphics? Need more info.

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  2. #12


    San Jose - California
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    8.1x64PWMC Ubuntu14.04x64 MintMate17x64


    Hi topgundcp,

    Your advice is always "spot on"; however, I don't think the chipset drivers are "always" required anymore. I started to detail my reasons why but (fortunately) I found this article that pretty much says it for me:

    The Proper Way to Fully Install Intel Chipset Driver

    In summary, I haven't installed the Intel chipset drivers since my initial XP installation (circa 2005?) and I have not experienced any negative impact on Windows 7 and/or Windows 8 (thus far). Moreover, if the above article is accurate, you would have to "force" the installation of the inf files if you attempt to install them "after the fact" (eg, after the device drivers have been installed). So, case in point, my Windows 8 installation correctly identified and auto-installed all device drivers so installing the inf files (after the fact) would do me no good. Food for thought...
    I am sorry but I disagree with this article and the chipset drivers do install drivers, not just .inf files. A while back I helped this guy with Random Restarts involving chipset drivers. Even though he did not mark it SOLVED but I assume that it is SOLVED since he did not come back.

    FYI, The chipset is usually made up of two chips: the northbridge and the southbridge. Sometimes there's just one chip in which case it's still called a chipset. Most chipset drivers come as a single package which contains the various drivers for each chip. You just install the chipset driver and it takes care of setting up drivers for each of the chips.

    As I said in earlier post, the chipset drivers can affect the speed and stability of many of the devices built into your motherboard. It is common for computers to be running with the basic default drivers built into Windows.If you're having any kind of stability problems with your motherboard then it's a good idea to install the latest chipset drivers. In your case, you have been running with the basic default drivers built in Windows and of course most of the time it'll work but not with full functional features. One obvious example is when you install Windows, Windows will install a basic generic Video driver but does it have all the bell and whistle that your Video card provides ? the answer is NO until you install the driver from the manufacturer. Another example is some of the threads where people having problems with Network connection intermittently dropped or slow, it is because they have been using the default driver for the network adapter and of course you can download the individual driver for the network adapter and the problem will be fixed but why not installing the chipset drivers where all the drivers for your MB built in devices. Below is a screen shot of part of the device manager for my network adapter, without installing the chipset drivers, I'll not have the NVIDIA nForce driver installed for my Network Adapter but I'd be using the Microsoft built in driver.

    Click image for larger version

    And here's a typical chipset for my MB. Each chip controls certain built in devices on the MB.

    Click image for larger version

    So my number 1 rule is after a fresh install of Windows. The first thing I install is chipset drivers and turn off Autorun.

    Cheers !!!
    Last edited by topgundcp; 26 Feb 2013 at 14:13.
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  3. #13


    Hi topgundcp,

    I wish I could find one bit of supporting Intel documentation that clearly states "You must always install the chipset drivers." Have you found something to that effect, and, if so, could you please share it? Thanks, as always, for your attention to detail.

    norepli (aka Rodney)

    PS Found this interesting chipset discussion on the sevenforums:
    Win7 clean install - is Chipset driver package needed? - Windows 7 Support Forums
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  4. #14


    San Jose - California
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    Hi Rodney,
    If you read my first post, I said "should always" not "must always". In your case, it's working with the basic default drivers but the question is: do the devices work with full functionality ?. In some other cases, without chipset drivers iinstalled, there will be some devices listed in the Device Manager as "Unknown Drivers" which indicate that the basic default drivers are not fully compatible with MB built in devices and that's a good enough reason for "should always" install the chipset drivers.

    Cheers.
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  5. #15


    Hi topgundcp,

    Thank you for your response and that should finalize our discussion regarding this issue; yes? Now, anyone can read the discussion, do their own research, and come to their own conclusions on how they should proceed with regard to their own respective OS installations.

    Cheers

    Hey, I think we lost Salim in this discussion... hello Salim.... are you still there?
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  6. #16


    india
    Posts : 101
    Windows 8 pro with WMC x86 & windows Blue preview x86 with Windows 7 Ultimate SP1


    Quote Originally Posted by norepli View Post
    Hi topgundcp,

    Thank you for your response and that should finalize our discussion regarding this issue; yes? Now, anyone can read the discussion, do their own research, and come to their own conclusions on how they should proceed with regard to their own respective OS installations.

    Cheers

    Hey, I think we lost Salim in this discussion... hello Salim.... are you still there?
    yep still alive..... so....... following topgundcp's advice i've installed chipset drivers on my pc............. and i'm planning to install some other network adaptor........... will it be ok?... any suggestions on network adapter mr.rodney and topgundcp??
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  7. #17


    HOORAY! You are still here! OK, so you decided to install the chipset drivers as advised by topgundcp; good... but how are you making out on resolving your original problems (eg, what is still not working at this point) and why are you now trying to install "some other network adapter" and what kind of network adapter might that be? Also, please provide the manufacturer name/model number for your PC.
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  8. #18


    Wow! That was like pullin' teeth... 17 posts later we get to the model number of the pc... I'm holding my breath till I find out if there is even a wifi card in the build.
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  9. #19


    Quote Originally Posted by DMHolt57 View Post
    Wow! That was like pullin' teeth... 17 posts later we get to the model number of the pc... I'm holding my breath till I find out if there is even a wifi card in the build.
    Hi DMHoltz,

    Actually, my last post was the "third" request for that information. The other two requests were buried in long paragraphs.

    Cheers!
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  10. #20


    india
    Posts : 101
    Windows 8 pro with WMC x86 & windows Blue preview x86 with Windows 7 Ultimate SP1


    sorry for the inconvenience...... was out for a while...... left it 2 my brother to get into this.... and well my PC isn't pre-build it's assembled by my uncle and his friends...... and anything else?...... i have a i3 processor and a 2gb ram(1.86 usable)...
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