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  1. #11


    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Some clarification (in red).

    Quote Originally Posted by esspee View Post
    +superior size / weight due to low-power, fanless CPU - They do use a fan and traditional heat sink
    +superior battery life (many get near 10hrs) - It varies and battery life is usually between 4-5 hours
    +runs full Win8 o/s (not RT) so compatible with legacy apps just like the Surface
    +lower price point (run between $499-$699)
    -not as powerful as i5 processer found in Surface (struggles with more process/graphic intense apps but fine for day to day stuff)
    -eMMC storage (its solid state but more like a big memory card so reading/writing to drive can be slow) - They also use SSD and mSATA
    -screen resolution seems to be limited to 720P (not sure if its cost or limitation of Atom) - They can go higher, but traditionally it's been lower to keep costs down
    -USB 2.0 and 2GB RAM (which is a limitation of Atom) - They have USB 3.0 and can go at least up to 4GB RAM
    Correction. I was reading some reviews on Andendtech when I came across this in the Acer W510 review

    "I mentioned this in our initial Clover Trail analysis piece, but the SoC [Atom] doesn't support SATA - only eMMC. Only USB 2.0 is supported as well."

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  2. #12


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    Windows Phone 6, Windows CE 5, Windows Vista x32, Windows 7 x32/x64, Windows 8 x64


    Quote Originally Posted by esspee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Some clarification (in red).

    Quote Originally Posted by esspee View Post
    +superior size / weight due to low-power, fanless CPU - They do use a fan and traditional heat sink
    +superior battery life (many get near 10hrs) - It varies and battery life is usually between 4-5 hours
    +runs full Win8 o/s (not RT) so compatible with legacy apps just like the Surface
    +lower price point (run between $499-$699)
    -not as powerful as i5 processer found in Surface (struggles with more process/graphic intense apps but fine for day to day stuff)
    -eMMC storage (its solid state but more like a big memory card so reading/writing to drive can be slow) - They also use SSD and mSATA
    -screen resolution seems to be limited to 720P (not sure if its cost or limitation of Atom) - They can go higher, but traditionally it's been lower to keep costs down
    -USB 2.0 and 2GB RAM (which is a limitation of Atom) - They have USB 3.0 and can go at least up to 4GB RAM
    Correction. I was reading some reviews on Andendtech when I came across this:

    "I mentioned this in our initial Clover Trail analysis piece, but the SoC [Atom] doesn't support SATA - only eMMC. Only USB 2.0 is supported as well."
    But not all Atom processors are Clover Trail.
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  3. #13


    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by esspee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Some clarification (in red).
    Correction. I was reading some reviews on Andendtech when I came across this:

    "I mentioned this in our initial Clover Trail analysis piece, but the SoC [Atom] doesn't support SATA - only eMMC. Only USB 2.0 is supported as well."
    But not all Atom processors are Clover Trail.
    But all Windows 8 Atom tablets are Clover Trail Intel Atom Z2760.
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  4. #14


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    Windows Phone 6, Windows CE 5, Windows Vista x32, Windows 7 x32/x64, Windows 8 x64


    Quote Originally Posted by esspee View Post
    But all Windows 8 Atom tablets are Clover Trail Intel Atom Z2760.
    You can run Windows 8 on a non-Clover Trail Atom device.
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  5. #15


    Posts : 1,127
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by esspee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by esspee View Post
    Correction. I was reading some reviews on Andendtech when I came across this:

    "I mentioned this in our initial Clover Trail analysis piece, but the SoC [Atom] doesn't support SATA - only eMMC. Only USB 2.0 is supported as well."
    But not all Atom processors are Clover Trail.
    But all Windows 8 Atom tablets are Clover Trail Intel Atom Z2760.
    only for a few more months. until bay trail.
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  6. #16


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    I would start with a list of what I want to do. I think most of those high end tablets have a lot more function than most people will ever need.

    A tablet - in my book - is for on the go. And unless you need it for some specific professional application, the on the go requirements are usually pretty modest. I don't think you will make a PowerPoint presentation on the go nor will you do a video encoding.

    On the other hand you may want to do trip planning, navigation, email, free phone calls and maybe listen to some music that you loaded on the tablet.

    I have a tablet for $230 that can do all that - and some more. I would never spend close to $1000 for a tablet because it can never rival with my high powered desktop (which cost less money) for real work.
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  7. #17


    South Carolina
    Posts : 47
    Windows 8


    In my opinion hers my logic. A core i5 processor on a tablet is epic and speedy fast but the battery life wouldn't last you on the go. An intel atom basically Is more powerful than any windows rt tablet. Windows rt tablets can do much of what your talking about efficiently. So if your going for a windows 8 intel atom processor then It would perform the metro ui. Like a snapp. Tho It may not have superior sped in desktop it still infact can perform better than any windows rt tablet overall. The bater has a good amount and you can do more than about any old netbook would. So on my scale I would prefer atom because of portability, fanless, and the cost. My only great thing about the core i5's is the every app compatibility. But other whise they consume battery like a monster.
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  8. #18


    Posts : 1,127
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    like others have stated, it all depends on your needs. that's why we have all form factors, processors, and designs. there's no need to design one package for everyone. there's no reason to have the "best" when there is a "best" for each individual person.

    for me, I want a small form factor that's powerful. I want as close to desktop class power in a tight package. battery life is irrelevant for me. I'm used to having a 17" monster gaming laptop that you could throw everything at. this beast only last a little over an hour on a battery. so everything over that is gravy for me. I'm never far away from an outlet, whether I'm at school or at a Starbucks or at the library or at home or at the office. So it's not critical for me to get 8 hours on a battery.
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  9. #19


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    Right - form factor and battery life are the first points on which to decide.
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  10. #20


    South Carolina
    Posts : 47
    Windows 8


    True the power hungry tablets are good for me but on the go i'll need a mobile battery supply with usb pots. So i would neeed a charger that has 2 pieces the wall charger with usb end and the actual wall adapter. But formy money is not very high for these core tablets. Atom is the choice. Though the store is lacking games which is why the core is good because It has good gaming perormance.
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