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What is owner opinion on Atom based Win8 tablets?

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    What is owner opinion on Atom based Win8 tablets?


    So I really want to get a Windows 8 tablet but just cannot choose. It seems like everything is a compromise until Intel drops new 7w silicon and OEMs find a sweet spot.

    I would like a 10.1" Windows 8 tablet that is roughly the size and weight of the iPad. Right now this only seems doable with an Atom version. I will not deny I want the i5 power of the W700 or Surface Pro but at this point it just adds too much weight, size, noise and heat for my taste.

    There are a few nice looking contenders in the Atom tablet space as far as build and size goes. I know that means I sacrifice a lot when it comes to cpu/gpu performance but exactly how much? I read a review that said the Acer W510 struggled with games like Cut the Rope and Solitaire? If it cannot handle something that runs smooth on my phone I cannot image how slow the Atom must run Excel or a HD movie.

    My other concern is that all of the Atom based tablets Ive seen are using MMC for their storage. This interface would seem pretty abysmal for activities like booting up, writing files and launching x86 apps. I know the Surface Pro runs sata ssd and gets pretty rave reviews in those areas, so just how noticeable is the difference?

    I guess I would just like opinions from the atom base tablet owners who can maybe draw some comparisons to what they have experienced.

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    I have a Gigabyte S1080 tablet (Atom N570), 2GB RAM, Samsung 830 SSD 128GB that runs Windows 7 (I did have Windows 8 on it, which ran fine, but went back to 7) and on it I have replicated my desktop with full Office, Adobe Creative Suite and a lot of other programs. The tablet runs all of these without drama and, in my view quite fast, for what it is.
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    Take a look at this,,,,

    Episode #320: Windows 8 Review... Atom vs. i3 or i5 Processor - YouTube

    The meat of the video is about 4 to 5 min in. But the over all video contains good info, I recommend watching the whole thing.
    The guy is a little bit annoying at times, but it is good info.
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    ...the i5 and i7 will be able to run more software than the Atom...
    WTF?
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    Re-edit ......: ()

    Yes, I hate to be bearer of bad news,,, and basing this off the 17W 3rd Gen i5's I just picked one cause I don't know exactly which one is going into Surface.
    I also picked the Atom that is in the HP Envy2 ... (which I just thought of and went with as an example on the fly.)

    ARK | Intel® Atom

    From the Acer Iconia W700
    http://ark.intel.com/products/65707/...to-2_60-GHz%29

    So, clearly, yes, you will be able to do more with an i5 than an Atom. (I still stand by this statement)

    Also keep in mind that the i5 has the Virtualization capabilities, the Atom does not.
    So if you ever wanted to play around with Virtual Machines on the tablet. The Atom will either not do it, or will struggle.

    Also of note, the i5 is 64bit, the Atom that comes in the HP Envy2 is only 32bit
    (However, there are other Atoms that can run 64bit.)

    (I picked the first Tablet that I could find quickly and went with that Processor.

    But let's be really honest here.
    Can you do stuff with the Atom? Yes
    Does it Work? Yep.
    Will it fit your needs? Depends on what you want to really do, what are your plans for using it, now and in the future.
    Is the i5 better? Yes, it is.

    Would I follow Rays advice or the guy in the Video and my own knowledge? The guy in the Video and my own knowledge.

    I never said the Atom is not usable, I stated that you can do more with the i5. And the specs clearly show it. And if you can't believe specs, then what can you believe or go off of?)

    One final note: You get what you pay for.
    Last edited by Tepid; 10 Feb 2013 at 01:11.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tepid View Post
    Yes, I hate to be bearer of bad new,,, and basing this off the 17W 3rd Gen i5's I just picked one cause I don't know exactly which one is going into Surface.
    I also picked the Atom that is in the HP Envy2

    ARK | Intel® Atom

    ARK | Intel® Core

    So, clearly, yes, you will be able to do more with an i5 than an Atom.

    Also keep in mind that the i5 has the Virtualization capabilities, the Atom does not.
    So if you ever wanted to play around with Virtual Machines on the tablet. The Atom will either not do it, or will struggle.

    Also of note, the i5 is 64bit, the Atom is only 32bit
    My Gigabyte tablet runs:

    - full Office Professional Plus 2010
    - Adobe Design Premium CS4
    - Lightroom 3.6
    - Garmin Basecamp/nRoute etc
    - Macromedia Studio MX
    - Microsoft ICE, LifeCam, Skype, Media Centre, Movie Maker,
    - OziExplorer, Memory Map and GB of maps
    - and more

    Exactly what can an i5 run that the Atom can't?

    Want to run VM: https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Virtualization

    Want to install a x64 OS: ARK | Intel® Atom.

    For a supposedly expert IT professional, you don't seem to know a lot about your field of work.
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    Re-edit...:

    Please read my post again....

    As for Virtualbox, yeah, it works, but it's not the best solution, for which I did post about VM's

    Also can you point to a tablet that runs the Atom you posted......
    Last edited by Tepid; 10 Feb 2013 at 00:18.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tepid View Post
    Re-edit...:

    Please read my post again....
    Don't selectively pick products that support your argument.

    As for Virtualbox, yeah, it works, but it's not the best solution, for which I did post about VM's
    We're not talking about the best solution, we're talking about solutions that work. That is not what you said.

    Also can you point to a tablet that runs the Atom you posted......
    Read post #2

    I also forgot to mention. The OP asked what is an owner's opinion of the Atom processor in a tablet. Not the opinion of a boofhead on YouTube or those who don't own one.
    Last edited by Ray8; 10 Feb 2013 at 01:01.
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    I don't think I ever questioned that the i5 can run circles around the Atom - I know it does. My question is more about real world experience away from all the charts and graphs. Is the Atom enough for everyday computing and what is 'enough' to you. When does the Atom start to lag. Personally, I am impressed that the Atom smoothly runs Lightroom and some of the other apps mentioned. What about viewing HD video or playing popular app store games?

    Almost a bigger concern for me is the storage speed. The benchmarks between a sata ssd drive and one that uses mmc are just as staggering a difference as the Atom vs i5 comparison. But unlike a CPU where a 'difference' can remain pretty hidden until you really press it, storage read/write speeds are in your face always and unfortunately, I am not a patient person.

    I do really like the thinner, lighter, longer lasting form factor the Atom but at the same time don't want to concede specs for form. My ideal tablet would be the body of the Thinkpad Tablet 2 (stylist holder and all) with the guts of the Razer Edge, but that form factor doesn't seem to exist in this world.
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    I can connect a portable USB DVD drive to my tablet and run videos perfectly. I haven't tried running a stored video. I don't play games, so I can't provide any opinions in that respect. It is without a doubt suitable for everyday computing.

    I can't say whether it will meet your needs, but it can do things in quite a respectable manner, all things considered. Your best option would be to find a device and try it out, if possible.
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