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  1. #11


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    coke robot, touch isn't new technology in fact it's 20+ years old after HP released a pc with touch.

    not new and still not cheap, don't make a great combination.

    yes it's been known for a long time that most keyboards are probably more unhygenic than anything else around the home, but companies don't run in fear of that, they run in fear of lawsuits, look at the issues around RSI in the workplace already and as a company you may not want to take that risk.

    ah now your trying to compare the wacom and other stylus equipment to touch screen, not a great idea to compare those, for example you use the wacom and you have it in your lap or in a very comfortable place and your hands aren't covering the screen or your arms, making it ideal for that kind of work, I know of many people that are in those industries and they can't stand touch screens for different reasons uncomfortable and having the image blocked by your arms being just a few of the reasons.

    gesture based tech has been used in the private sector for some time, hospitals use it for hygine purposes where touch just won't do, the leap motion creates a 6 foot box around it, you don't sit away from your pc like you do with the kinect, you use it as you would touch screen without the need to touch anything.

    oh i didn't say touch can't work on the desktop, but it's not going to take off, it would have already if people really wanted it, as i said already it's not new technology it's as old as windows.

    I know you want it to work but seriously it will take a great deal of effort on the part of software manufacturers for it to see any traction in the market, and they just aren't interested.

    and again i ask you to find a desk suitable for mounting 2+ screens in an easy to use format for touch screen use over extended periods of time for under 200

    if your wondering the current elevated screens would not be usable for more than a few minutes of use, so that's an entire office redesign.

    not being funny but just because microsoft want us to use touch doesn't mean the rest of the market is ready for it.

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  2. #12


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    Quote Originally Posted by gazz9496 View Post
    coke robot, touch isn't new technology in fact it's 20+ years old after HP released a pc with touch.

    not new and still not cheap, don't make a great combination.

    yes it's been known for a long time that most keyboards are probably more unhygenic than anything else around the home, but companies don't run in fear of that, they run in fear of lawsuits, look at the issues around RSI in the workplace already and as a company you may not want to take that risk.

    ah now your trying to compare the wacom and other stylus equipment to touch screen, not a great idea to compare those, for example you use the wacom and you have it in your lap or in a very comfortable place and your hands aren't covering the screen or your arms, making it ideal for that kind of work, I know of many people that are in those industries and they can't stand touch screens for different reasons uncomfortable and having the image blocked by your arms being just a few of the reasons.

    gesture based tech has been used in the private sector for some time, hospitals use it for hygine purposes where touch just won't do, the leap motion creates a 6 foot box around it, you don't sit away from your pc like you do with the kinect, you use it as you would touch screen without the need to touch anything.

    oh i didn't say touch can't work on the desktop, but it's not going to take off, it would have already if people really wanted it, as i said already it's not new technology it's as old as windows.

    I know you want it to work but seriously it will take a great deal of effort on the part of software manufacturers for it to see any traction in the market, and they just aren't interested.

    and again i ask you to find a desk suitable for mounting 2+ screens in an easy to use format for touch screen use over extended periods of time for under 200

    if your wondering the current elevated screens would not be usable for more than a few minutes of use, so that's an entire office redesign.

    not being funny but just because microsoft want us to use touch doesn't mean the rest of the market is ready for it.
    Touch is as old as Windows 3.11, but again, no mainstream adoption of it. Just because the technology has been around doesn't mean the technology has been around for PCs. Not many a person has ACTUALLY used Windows with touch up until 7 and primarily 8. It's a neat feature that people would like to have, considering that the may already have a smartphone or a separate phablet.

    And no, I don't mean having the touch screen in your lap, this is not ideal.
    Cintiq 24HD touch Pen Display | Wacom
    These monitors from Wacom are the professional artist's pick of touch screen creation. Notice how they're not tablets, but monitors on top of a desk.

    I'd like to see the hospital that has gesturing technology. I don't think it's been really introduced. It would be ideal for those situations, but there are already hospitals that are using ipads and soon Windows 8 tablet PCs to replace clipboards to fully digitize patient documents.

    The Kinect for Windows was adapted for use I believe up to 40cm away from the sensor. That would be ideal for PC use. It would be ideal to use it six feet away. Watch a movie, pause it with a gesture.

    And for that desk, pretty simple. Have a foot and half of desktop space. The easiest way is to make the user closer to the monitor, not two-three feet away, but more closer like if they were using a laptop on a desk. That's actually how touch AIO PCs are set up for display by the way. Even then, just position the monitors closer to the user. Everyone's different and they can have their monitors as far or near as they want.
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  3. #13


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    Windows 8.1 Pro


    All those touchscreen laptops for Black Friday or Cyber Monday - Slickdeals.net

    some good deals on touchscreen laptops for Black Friday going from $450 to $700.
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  4. #14


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    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by dirtyvu View Post
    All those touchscreen laptops for Black Friday or Cyber Monday - Slickdeals.net

    some good deals on touchscreen laptops for Black Friday going from $450 to $700.
    Ohh! Now these are deals!
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  5. #15


    Posts : 26
    Windows 8


    I would suggest getting a good touchpad. I just bought the Logitech T650. I can navigate easily now with simple touch gestures. Much easier than using a mouse or touch screen. If you're familiar with Apple's Mountain Lion and touchpad interface, it works similarly. It has totally changed my view on Windows 8.
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  6. #16


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    Quote Originally Posted by nick View Post
    I would suggest getting a good touchpad. I just bought the Logitech T650. I can navigate easily now with simple touch gestures. Much easier than using a mouse or touch screen. If you're familiar with Apple's Mountain Lion and touchpad interface, it works similarly. It has totally changed my view on Windows 8.
    That would be something I could go for. I've been looking at those with keen interest.
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  7. #17


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    Windows 8.1 Pro


    I know with a Windows 8 touchpad, you can swipe from the edges to bring up charms or other things. but can you easily select one of the charm things like devices? that's what a touchscreen gives you. you swipe from the right side and then you tap on a button like search.

    When I played with a touchpad, sure I could swipe, but then I had to move the mouse cursor to the button which was a pain.
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  8. #18


    Posts : 3
    Windows 8


    I think these forums are fun to read, but with most technology the proof is in the use. I spend my days with complex spreadsheets, one note for meetings, outlook with CRM, word, and social media. I have upgraded my Lenovo X220T to Win 8 and it has really completed the all in one. Tips.. with Office 13, the pinch to zoom or swipe to scroll works great on spreadsheets as well as the emails. The pen for notes is fluid with Win 8 and allows for multi use with either... i.e you can write with the pen and use your thumb to move the page down for more writing space. You can literally load all the applications you want to use and with a flick of the pen or finger move from app to app. Email for the touch screen has a right thumb set of icons for reply, delete, and actions. This makes it much easier to scroll through email and clear junk or non-action items. Don't knock the touch until you have really worked with it. Also, you can split applications into separate window space and run them independently. This is different from splitting the screen, as trying to copy and paste from one app to the other always seems to shift unexpectedly. I think as time goes on, folks will realize MS has a home run with WIN 8
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