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Finally a DECENT full and objective review of surface RT

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    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Finally a DECENT full and objective review of surface RT


    Hi everyone

    This seems for once a complete (with pics) and unbiased review of the surface RT tablet.

    Actually from this it looks far far better than I had imagined --and I'm not really a tablet lover either.

    If the PRO (full std W8 version) is as good even I might be sorely tempted.

    Microsoft Surface with Windows RT review -- Engadget

    enjoy.

    Cheers
    jimbo

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    No tablet-man myself but: Nice review!
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    Its a nice review !
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    Thanks for the review. It is disappointing that one of the criticisms of this device is the fact that it's not ideal for content consumption and entertainment....which really is what the world is using tablets for at the present time.

    I'm trying to get work to buy one as a proof of concept, but there is no way I'm willing to spend my own money on one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Thanks for the review. It is disappointing that one of the criticisms of this device is the fact that it's not ideal for content consumption and entertainment....which really is what the world is using tablets for at the present time.

    I'm trying to get work to buy one as a proof of concept, but there is no way I'm willing to spend my own money on one.
    That is bizarre because the /entire/ point of metro and the RT version of the surface was for that one single reason only. Content Consumption (Well that and advertisements)

    But yeah that low rez display is particularly disappointing, I'd only consider the pro version, but I'm afraid that that thing is going to be a high temperature, low battery life, heavy as a brick version of a tablet

    The final conclusion about "doing serious work" on the RT was a LOL. The HD yes, RT? uh....
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    "two new proprietary magnetic connectors. "

    Fail.
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    But it is not about the ability to view content, it is about the availability of it.
    As of now, there is Netflix, Hulu and host of other stuff, there are games there as well. The apps etc, will grow, and much faster than people realize.
    So, honestly, this may be a slight shortfall right now, it should not be a deal breaker either.

    How long did it take for content to fully explode on Android and Apple? days, weeks or months?
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    Having seen the Surface and messed around with it a little bit I like it. But this review has something that's off, and it's screen display.

    Back when Surface for RT was first revealed, Microsoft shied away from confirming the tablet's screen resolution. We can now understand why: if people knew then that it had a 1,366 x 768 pixel count, they might have pooh-poohed it for not having a 1,920 x 1,200 panel, or better. And that would have been a shame; as any digital camera aficionado will tell you, there's more to image quality than resolution.
    I like to take photos, and a lot of stuff affects the end result but the lens is the big deal for cameras. The better the lens, the better the photo. This is why when you take a photo from a camera phone it looks fine on the phone, but put it on your computer at full size it looks like garbage (compared to a SLR-type camera).

    This is resolution:

    Click image for larger version
    300x220 image with normal pixel density


    Click image for larger version
    300x220 image with pixels 10X larger

    Click image for larger version
    Middle picture BUT with the same pixel density as the first one. You're cramming the pixels into a smaller space, which makes the photo better even though it's smaller. (This is the reverse situation of the camera phone I mentioned.) If you have Photoshop you can actually increase the resolution of a photo, whereby PS makes up some new pixels on its own and stuffs them in there. You have to do this properly otherwise it will look terrible, but it is possible to enlarge a photo and not worry about a loss in image quality because you're fabricating a higher resolution.

    1366x768 = definition of Surface RT.
    148 PPI = resolution of a Surface RT.

    1920x1080 = definition of Surface Pro.
    208 PPI = resolution of a Surface Pro.

    The RT and the Pro are both on a 10.6 inch screen, which means the Pro is gonna have a better looking display. I'm not saying the RT display is crap because it's not. I've seen it and it looks great. But you put it beside a display with more pixels in the same space, it will look inferior is all I'm saying.

    Lesson over, carry on.
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    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Travis View Post
    Having seen the Surface and messed around with it a little bit I like it. But this review has something that's off, and it's screen display.

    Back when Surface for RT was first revealed, Microsoft shied away from confirming the tablet's screen resolution. We can now understand why: if people knew then that it had a 1,366 x 768 pixel count, they might have pooh-poohed it for not having a 1,920 x 1,200 panel, or better. And that would have been a shame; as any digital camera aficionado will tell you, there's more to image quality than resolution.
    I like to take photos, and a lot of stuff affects the end result but the lens is the big deal for cameras. The better the lens, the better the photo. This is why when you take a photo from a camera phone it looks fine on the phone, but put it on your computer at full size it looks like garbage (compared to a SLR-type camera).

    This is resolution:

    Click image for larger version
    300x220 image with normal pixel density


    Click image for larger version
    300x220 image with pixels 10X larger

    Click image for larger version
    Middle picture BUT with the same pixel density as the first one. You're cramming the pixels into a smaller space, which makes the photo better even though it's smaller. (This is the reverse situation of the camera phone I mentioned.) If you have Photoshop you can actually increase the resolution of a photo, whereby PS makes up some new pixels on its own and stuffs them in there. You have to do this properly otherwise it will look terrible, but it is possible to enlarge a photo and not worry about a loss in image quality because you're fabricating a higher resolution.

    1366x768 = definition of Surface RT.
    148 PPI = resolution of a Surface RT.

    1920x1080 = definition of Surface Pro.
    208 PPI = resolution of a Surface Pro.

    The RT and the Pro are both on a 10.6 inch screen, which means the Pro is gonna have a better looking display. I'm not saying the RT display is crap because it's not. I've seen it and it looks great. But you put it beside a display with more pixels in the same space, it will look inferior is all I'm saying.

    Lesson over, carry on.
    I HATE phone cameras or even the tourist point and shoot digital cameras.

    I ALWAYS USE A real DSLR such as a canon 5D full frame where you can get a proper DOF . Phone cameras irrespective of the megapixel resolution always have NO DOF whatsoever -- looks like Tourist snap shots -- everything in focus from the subject to infinity -- not good photography.

    However it's good to see people at least READING the review.

    cheers
    jimbo
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    Yeah, DSLR user here myself for the good photos. Use my phone camera in a pinch.
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