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Recommend a Win 8 tablet/laptop hybrid for business/web design?

  1. #11


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    ASUS released a family of Windows 8 devices, perhaps the VivoBook will fit your needs and I believe they are aggressively priced as well with i3,i5 and i7 variants.

    ASUS makes Touch available for everyone.

    Some listed on Amazon:
    Amazon.com

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  2. #12


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    Rumor has it that the Surface Pro might start at 800 dollars for the base model.....
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  3. #13


    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Hi there
    That's the tablet I'd wait for if you are thinking Business use. The USB3 connection is ideal (you can use a USB3 Hub for more USB3 connections) and with a micro SD card inside also good for a decent amount of removable local storage too.

    The USB3 and HDMI out (good for external monitor) seems to make this tablet a "No Brainer" for your requirements -- also runs windows 8 so your apps will all work on it.

    This IMO is the perfect "Ipad Killer".

    Of course the price has to be right -- too expensive just get an Ultrabook which rather defeats the object.

    I think so long as the price is OK this tablet will be AWESOME compared with anything out there now --and perfectly fit for purpose too.

    I've tested the much more limited RT version -- works fine connecting to an office VPN -- no probs with applications etc and external monitor -- but you can't load native windows apps on the RT tablet.

    Wait for the Pro. It should appear in January 2013.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  4. #14


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    Quote Originally Posted by ProtoType View Post
    Have you looked into the slate 7?

    Specs - Tablet PCs XE700T1A | Samsung Tablet PCs

    Expectations are a little off, but it's the most spectacular one so far in my opinion.

    Resolution: "1366 x 768 HD LED backlit" ==> absolutely no way.
    Likewise the Asus Vivobook.

    WTF?
    Why should us Windows Users settle for a THIRD the resolution of an Apple iPad (2048-by-1536)...
    And a QUARTER the resolution of a Google Nexus 10 (2560x1600) ?

    And please dont give me any BS about the human eye not being able to see the difference. Even the mighty Nexus is only 300 PPI but the human eye can easily see the difference between 300 and 600 DPI which is why publishers often print at 600 or even 1200 DPI.

    J

    J
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  5. #15


    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Hi there


    Once you start thinking about 11.2 inches and bigger sizes the whole point of a tablet seems to me to be lost as we are getting into Laptop sizes here. I'd still go for the Ms PRO -- 10 inches and USB3 --really makes a difference.

    Remember also not all pixels are created equal -- you can trawl through enough photography sites to show that a DLSR 12 MP camera will EASILY out perform in any way you care to name it a mobile phone or point and shoot small camera with 16 MP.

    Printing paper quality , quality of post processing (Photoshop or whatever) and the quality of the printer are also factors in producing quality prints too.

    Remember also large posters are printed out at much less resolution but look OK because they are viewed at from quite a distance away too -- these types of posters aren't intended to be viewed with your nose just touching the print.

    Having SEEN and used the RT tablet I'd say the screen looks far far better than a 15 inch Sony Vaio laptop with the same size resolution -- and --- I've been a photographer for YEARS using high end pro stuff and done my share of pixel peeping ad nauseam and I'd STILL say that the screen resolution doesn't look bad even compared with an IPAD.

    Of course rendering images larger - you then will see the obvious limitation -- but we don't know what the graphic output of the PRO tablet will deliver to a large monitor.

    A lot of laptops - even with 15 inch screens still have a Native screen resolution of 1366 X 768 such as a Sony VAIO and these screens don't look at all horrible either.

    The Sony Laptop delivers higher resolution than the built in native screen resolution of 1366 X 768 via an HDMI output so there's no reason to suppose the PRO model will not be able to deliver more than adequate resolution to a large external monitor either..

    For normal use on a 10 inch screen HD TV quality output (1920 X 1080) is more than enough -- even on a 50 inch TV monitor it's fine --remember also you are sitting at least 2 metres away from the monitor (or you should be).

    The only advantage of the Ipad's resolution is perhaps so you can get REALLY TINY fonts etc on it -- but that's hard to read anyway.

    The other HORROR I have with Ipads is that they are almost illegible in bright sunlight --not so with the MS RT (and the PRO will be better I suspect).


    Incidentally depending on the nature of the application one can "Up-REZ" an image -- photoshop for example has some excellent built in algorathms such a Bi-Polar etc. These can produce really fine quality prints too from quite ordinary resolution images (obviously you must have ENOUGH pixels for the algorithm to be able to privde accurate guesses for the missing pixels) so the actual Native screen resolution isn't necessarily the limiting factor that it *Could be*.


    Cheers
    jimbo
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  6. #16


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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Rumor has it that the Surface Pro might start at 800 dollars for the base model.....

    too expensive, I prefer throw $ 1200 on a XPS 13 Dell notebook, or a Mac air, $ 400 more but at least I can do serious work with it.
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  7. #17


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    I think @Jimbo and I will need to agree to disagree. I will not settle for less that HD resolution. But he's absolutely right about one thing it's not JUST about resolution. There are a vast number of subtleties when it comes to showing photos well: Colour balance, contrast, ability to show details in shadows and highlights, speed of response, accuracy of colour on top of the obvious things like pixel brightness. But no, I still want a reasonable resolution. For one thing, I shall be wearing a good pair of reading glasses and every pixel will be sharply in focus!
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  8. #18


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    How's about the Asus Taichi?
    The 13" version is only 1.55Kg. Apart from being a bit bonkers carrying around 2 screens, the main problem for me is that the inner screen isnt touch sensitive. On the up side, I think it has a built in stylus - something which will be important to me (yes, even though the mighty Steve Jobs was passionately against the stylus).

    J
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  9. #19


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    Windows 8 enterprise x64


    Asus, I will notch it with a 10 feet poles, go on Asus ROG forum read the horrors story with RMA. I change the front cover of a customer's Dell laptop last week because the touch pad was not working, I order the part from Dell and receive it 2 days after , try to order a part from Asus
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  10. #20


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    jimbo, I disagree with a lot of your points.

    I've played with touchscreen devices for a long time. I still have my HP TX2000 TabletPC which has a 12.1" screen. It is not too big for touch as you say.

    And if the price is in the range of an ultrabook, you'd rather get the ultrabook? That may be the case for you. But for me, I wouldn't say that at all. In fact, the ultrabook definitely would have to be cheaper than a touch device for me to even consider an ultrabook. I like sleek slender laptops. But I don't sacrifice performance for small. I will sacrifice small for touch.

    I still have a 17" laptop, and would still take a high powered 17" laptop over a low power sleek ultrabook. I'd take a touchscreen laptop over an ultrabook in nearly every situation.
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