Windows 8 PAE support?

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I am a Linux user, but this new Windows might yet convert me =) But I do have some problems. Apart from learning a new OS, this keeps worrying me:

As I don't use Windows, I didn't really check what kind of a license I was getting. Turned out it was Windows 7 Starter which is only available in 32-bit. But I need to use 6-8 GBs of ram. I thought it would create no big problem as I was also using Arch in 32-bit with PAE mode. But Wikipedia reports that "Microsoft Windows implements PAE if booted with the appropriate option, but current 32-bit desktop editions enforce the physical address space within 4 GB even in PAE mode".

So, is their policy still the same with Windows 8? If it is, is there a way to update from Windows 7 Starter to 64-bit Windows 8 Pro?

Thanks for your help.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8
You cannot update from 32-bit to 64-bit. That much I know. I haven't tried installing Windows 8 x32, so unfortunately, I can't answer the first question.
 

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  • OS
    Windows Server 2012 Standard w/Hyper-V
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    PC/Desktop
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    HP ProBook 4430s
    CPU
    Intel Core i3-2310M
    Memory
    16GB DDR3
    Hard Drives
    80GB Intel 320 SSD
    500GB Samsung Momentus
But Wikipedia reports that "Microsoft Windows implements PAE if booted with the appropriate option, but current 32-bit desktop editions enforce the physical address space within 4 GB even in PAE mode".

So, is their policy still the same with Windows 8? If it is, is there a way to update from Windows 7 Starter to 64-bit Windows 8 Pro?

Thanks for your help.

I used 32bit Win8 only on some old pentium 3 (one that has PAE) for testing. Unfortunately, I didn't had 4GB of RAM to confirm what you're asking.

Sorry I didn't tried this before, I usually play in VirtualBox but didn't thought about this one because I use 64bit VM:
If you're still interested in finding the answer, install 32bit Win8 in VirtualBox and enable PAE + give the machine 4GB RAM or more.

pae.jpg

This should show if all memory is allocated (like in Linux, PAE kernel) or not. But I still think that the policy is the same as in Win7/XP.

Do this step in Arch or where you are comfortable and all the memory is available. VBox should run fine for testing.

64bit:
The best solution is the clean install, because as stated above, you cannot upgrade from 32bit to 64bit.

Cheers
Hopachi
 

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  • OS
    Windows 10 x64
    Computer type
    Laptop
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    HP Envy DV6 7250
    CPU
    Intel i7-3630QM
    Motherboard
    HP, Intel HM77 Express Chipset
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD4000 + Nvidia Geforce 630M
    Sound Card
    IDT HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6' built-in + Samsung S22D300 + 17.3' LG Phillips
    Screen Resolution
    multiple resolutions
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    Samsung SSD 250GB + Hitachi HDD 750GB
    PSU
    120W adapter
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    small
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    laptop cooling pad
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    Backlit built-in + big one in USB
    Mouse
    SteelSeries Sensei
    Internet Speed
    slow and steady
    Browser
    Chromium, Pale Moon, Firefox Developer Edition
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    That's basically it.
Forget what I said about that test. I've made it and it sees 4GB or more but ONLY 3GB are usable (being seen in the system window).
Compared with a Ubuntu Server x86 VM, here you can use 4GB or more. Both systems were tested under VMware Player 5 where PAE is available by default.

but current 32-bit desktop editions enforce the physical address space within 4 GB even in PAE mode
Wikipedia was right.

So:
But I need to use 6-8 GBs of ram

Not possible with Win8 x86.

The only solution is a clean install of Win8 x64.

Regards
Hopachi
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 x64
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP Envy DV6 7250
    CPU
    Intel i7-3630QM
    Motherboard
    HP, Intel HM77 Express Chipset
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD4000 + Nvidia Geforce 630M
    Sound Card
    IDT HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6' built-in + Samsung S22D300 + 17.3' LG Phillips
    Screen Resolution
    multiple resolutions
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 250GB + Hitachi HDD 750GB
    PSU
    120W adapter
    Case
    small
    Cooling
    laptop cooling pad
    Keyboard
    Backlit built-in + big one in USB
    Mouse
    SteelSeries Sensei
    Internet Speed
    slow and steady
    Browser
    Chromium, Pale Moon, Firefox Developer Edition
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    That's basically it.
PAE on a workstation Windows OS is a bad idea, unless you are trying to make an unstable system. There's no reason to fear the x64 OSes anymore, so if you need to use 6-8 GB of memory, just go with x64.
 

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    Windows 8.1 Pro x64
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    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-3770K
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-Z77-UD3H
    Memory
    16 GB Patriot Viper 3 DDR3-1600
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia 470 GTX
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Hard Drives
    Crucial M4 256 GB, WD WD20EFRX 2 TB
    PSU
    OCZ 700W
    Case
    Corsair 300R
    Cooling
    Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo
I started off with Windows 7 in 64-bit mode and never looked back. I've never had any problems with the myriad of programs I run on it, many of which are very old. For the two that would not install in a 64-bit OS I used the Windows 7 Virtual Machine and loaded XP in it. I've already tested Hyper-V, the replacement for the Windows 7 Virtual Machine in Windows 8, by installing XP in a virtual machine for these two programs and they work fine too.
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 7 Professional
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