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Windows 8 Desktop UI - Change Title Text Color?

  1. #31


    Posts : 13
    windows 8


    Change the needed colors on windows 7,
    save them to a theme file (extension .themepack)
    apply this file to windows 8
    done
    Last edited by Brink; 29 Sep 2012 at 11:09. Reason: added link for more info

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  2. #32


    Posts : 6
    Win 8


    For people wanting to know here it is, MrGRiM01 is unaware the text is still black in programs like 3Ds Max and i cant seem to find this text to apply it to my theme.

    Windows & Caption Buttons > Aero > DWM Window > Frames > Window > Top > Active
    Windows & Caption Buttons > Aero > DWM Window > Frames > Window > Top > Inactive

    Windows & Caption Buttons > Aero > Window > Frames > Window > Top > Active
    Windows & Caption Buttons > Aero > Window > Frames > Window > Top > Inactive
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  3. #33


    As someone using Win8 on an older x86 OEM PC, how can I patch my theme files on Win8? UxStyle Core seems to only be for x64.
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  4. #34


    Quote Originally Posted by lilsting10 View Post
    As someone using Win8 on an older x86 OEM PC, how can I patch my theme files on Win8? UxStyle Core seems to only be for x64.
    SkinPack_Auto_UXThemePatcher_2.0 worked for me. I am now using Windows 8 Default Style by ~MrGRiM01 - which makes the titlebar text white and the titlebar of each window set to the color you choose in the Personalize menu, regardless if the window is active or inactive.
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  5. #35


    Orbiting the Moon
    Posts : 2,975
    Windows 10 x64


    This info relates to all original built-in Win8 (AeroLite) themes.

    Change title text:
    It works but the fix is only known for AeroLite (original) theme versions for now.

    Example of WHITE title text,
    Add this to the saved *.theme file:

    Code:
    [Control Panel\Colors]
    TitleText=255 255 255
    InactiveTitleText=255 255 255
    Unfortunately it doesn't work on the standard Aero theme.

    There are more paremeters in the same list for changing other things like menu colors and stuff, I just figured this out.

    To use AeroLite, edit the *.theme file and replace "Aero.msstyles" with "AeroLite.msstyles"

    Info regarding AeroLite:
    The clock text will turn to BLACK and will be quasi invisible on dark themes.
    AeroLite also drives the High Contrast Modes and these themes seem to use slightly different AeroLite settings.
    For instance, clock and text colors are the same parameter on hi-contrast but NOT on normal mode.

    In short, this should be it for using original themes.
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  6. #36


    Hi there... I too wanted to change this. And So i did.

    First thing, there seem to be two classes of themes defined by msstyle files in Windows 8

    aero.msstyles ---> Not our old hero Aero, and none of the .theme files include Color information like we are used to in Windows 7, i suspect this is all to enable the ability to do the random background matching metro "one color" nastyness. This would, in a lazy implementation, require dynamic settings for most colored non-text things, with fixed text colors. Thus no text color switching.

    Reg entries do nothing to modify these in meaningful (towards our purpose) ways.

    These are stored in C:\Windows\Resources\Themes

    -----> but never fear!!!

    aerolite.msstyles ---> Apparently something familiar from Windows 7, honestly not to sure if its exactly the same as Windows 7 Aero Lite But doesn't matter for our case. The only thing that matters is that these are kept in a different repository C:\Windows\Resources\Ease of Access Themes, have boatloads of color settings defined in the .theme files and text / etc RESPONDS to these settings!!



    SO: to change the text, I found it easiest to create a new .theme file out of the color settings from one of the high contrast files, and the majority of the aero.theme file. Going through and comparing the two as I went, and rectifying anything that seemed wrong. Then, simply go through and define your color settings as you see fit.

    (NOTE: I didn't have a ready to hand windows 7 theme to grab and compare. it is possible that a favorite windows 7 theme can simply donate its color settings into a modified aero.theme or hc1,hc2,hcwhite.theme.

    If taking aero.theme ---> change aero.msstyles ref to aerolite.msstyles

    If going from hcwhite.theme file, probably a good idea to change the highcontrast=1 to highcontrast=0, and please for the love of Pete change the colors of the rest of the crap. (this seemed to be simplest)

    NOTE 2...
    I really only started working on this tonight. I was upset by the fact that I couldn't have white text. SO at this point there is one Caveat to this process. For some reason, Windows explorer (computer) windows, seem to keep their text black. However, in HCWHITE.THEME it is in fact white as it should be. I am working on this on my end, but if someone with more knowledge knows of a difference between that title text, and the other windows title text... let me know.

    Hope this helps.
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  7. #37


    Orbiting the Moon
    Posts : 2,975
    Windows 10 x64


    Hello darkskypoet, welcome to the forums.

    Nice post!
    I did what you describe with highcontrast=3 the dark version and there all text is white.

    I'm no expert here but I've noticed some differences between: Aero (the one theme that's default), AeroLite (looks close to Aero but without transparency) and HiContrast (this is AeroLite but looks more like windows-classic theme).

    The problem with HiContrtast is that it look more like the old classic-look and less Aero. It uses AeroLite but not in the default mode: notice the "show desktop" button on the (right corner of) taskbar.
    But with Aero enabled, none of the custom settings seem to work. The registry parameters are the default ones but I thing they work on AeroLite or Classic (HiContrast) but I didn't tested this.

    You don't really need Win7 themes to get the parameters:
    -apply just a line or two from what I said in my previous post (Windows 8 Desktop UI - Change Title Text Color?)
    -then (export) save theme for sharing and then import (use) it
    -export the saved theme again and open the *.theme

    You'll see that all parameters are there.
    Here is what I mean:
    Code:
    ;created by the built in theme selector after a few extra clicks
    ;most of items here affect only clasic (theme-looking) elements
    [Control Panel\Colors]
    ;the title text on the top window border
    InactiveTitleText=8 64 128
    TitleText=16 255 255
    
    
    ActiveTitle=153 180 209
    InactiveTitle=191 205 219
    
    
    ;this border appears on some programs around tabs and content
    ActiveBorder=180 180 180
    InactiveBorder=128 128 128
    
    
    ;scrollbar color
    Scrollbar=180 180 180
    
    
    ;not sure what background
    Background=0 0 0
    
    
    Menu=180 180 180
    
    
    Window=192 192 192
    WindowFrame=100 100 100
    
    
    MenuText=0 0 0
    
    
    ;text in notepad and favorites explorer
    WindowText=0 0 0
    
    
    AppWorkspace=171 171 171
    
    
    Hilight=51 153 255
    HilightText=255 255 255
    
    
    ;inactive elements text
    GrayText=109 109 109
    
    
    ButtonFace=192 192 192
    ButtonShadow=160 160 160
    ButtonText=0 0 0
    ButtonHilight=255 255 255
    ButtonDkShadow=105 105 105
    ButtonLight=227 227 227
    ButtonAlternateFace=0 0 0
    
    
    InfoText=0 0 0
    InfoWindow=192 192 192
    
    
    HotTrackingColor=0 102 204
    
    
    GradientActiveTitle=185 209 234
    GradientInactiveTitle=215 228 242
    
    
    MenuHilight=51 153 255
    MenuBar=210 210 210
    Just added some comments to "deciphered" items and slightly modified some backgrounds.

    Without one of the HiContrast modes just like default mode here:
    Code:
    [VisualStyles]
    Path=%SystemRoot%\resources\themes\Aero\AeroLite.msstyles
    ColorStyle=NormalColor
    Size=NormalSize
    ColorizationColor=0XC2204B54
    Transparency=0
    Composition=1
    VisualStyleVersion=10
    AutoColorization=0
    ...not all parameters have effect, exactly what you noticed with Explorer windows STILL being in black text.

    As I noted in comment text, you're right about the HiContrast option because not all options have effect on Aero or AeroLite normal.

    I didn't know AeroLite existed in Win7... where?

    But anyway regarding Win8 themes:
    We still need to figure some things out but I'm glad we've got something here.
    You can see more of the modification I've described here:
    Change taskbar opacity

    Cheers
    Hopachi
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  8. #38


    I noticed you used hc3, however if you change the highcontrast=3 to 0, it still honors the color codes for 'normal' windows. The danger in using highcontrast=x where x>0, is you will run into apps and browsers that honor hc when rendering style sheets. Not pretty.

    As to explorer, I'd imagine there is a special setting for it somewhere. Also, I believe aerolite was in win7, and was used when your 3d hardware did not match a predefined level of performance. Thus no 3d, no transparency, no modern gpu acceleration.

    In reading the Aero spec from MS, even utilizing Aero.msstyles with defined colors in your themename.theme is supposed to override defaults. The change is that it doesnt go to the registry for those defaults, it goes to aero.msstyles for them, thus why modifying the reg is useless.

    I could not find a document with all the acceptable definitions for aerolite, only aero. MS seems to gloss over the usage of aerolite, as it's hc style... Usually only ever referring to them as high contrast styles.

    I would imagine the real win would be to modify the appropriate msstyles file, to get at the rest of the settings we wish to change. Else, we're needing to find all the definitions we have to override in the theme file with spotty documentation.
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  9. #39


    Orbiting the Moon
    Posts : 2,975
    Windows 10 x64


    Thanks for posting.

    Quote Originally Posted by darkskypoet View Post
    I noticed you used hc3, however if you change the highcontrast=3 to 0, it still honors the color codes for 'normal' windows. The danger in using highcontrast=x where x>0, is you will run into apps and browsers that honor hc when rendering style sheets. Not pretty.
    Thanks. That's good to know. But look at the "show desktop" and see if it's classic (not pretty) or not.
    EDIT: yes, works better and the show desktop button looks normal.
    Use aerolite without any highcontrast and that's what I look for.

    As to explorer, I'd imagine there is a special setting for it somewhere. Also, I believe aerolite was in win7, and was used when your 3d hardware did not match a predefined level of performance. Thus no 3d, no transparency, no modern gpu acceleration.
    The one in Win7 is Basic and it's still included in Aero.msstyles. AeroLite seems to be an independent *.msstyles file.

    In reading the Aero spec from MS, even utilizing Aero.msstyles with defined colors in your themename.theme is supposed to override defaults. The change is that it doesnt go to the registry for those defaults, it goes to aero.msstyles for them, thus why modifying the reg is useless.
    Where do you find the Aero specs?

    I could not find a document with all the acceptable definitions for aerolite, only aero. MS seems to gloss over the usage of aerolite, as it's hc style... Usually only ever referring to them as high contrast styles.
    Maybe the same applyes to AeroLite since they are look-alikes.

    I would imagine the real win would be to modify the appropriate msstyles file, to get at the rest of the settings we wish to change. Else, we're needing to find all the definitions we have to override in the theme file with spotty documentation.
    Modifying the msstyles is risky and you'll lose the MS signature. Not recommended.
    By the way, all those guys releasing custom themes use basically the SAME file over and over again, it's just modified for a new look. It's always a 32bit file but the MS *.msstyles on x64 are 64bit as they should be. No offence, custom files work, I've used some in the past, but now I try to use only the original Aero and see what there can be done with it.

    I'll have to look at the specs myself to be convinced but one way or another we'll have to override settings without modifying the original files, if possible.

    I found some Aero info dating back form Longhorn:
    http://www.google.be/url?sa=t&rct=j&...IH9WpeGq3mtLKA
    Seems to be a wizard window.
    Last edited by Hopachi; 01 Dec 2012 at 17:41.
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  10. #40


    Orbiting the Moon
    Posts : 2,975
    Windows 10 x64


    I'm using hi-contrast set to 0 and it's better.
    Click image for larger version
    Now other parts are changed but others are still to figure out.
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