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If you dont like metro, you could do this.

  1. #11


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    It's ironic - when we build pe, of course we need to launch some kind of shell.

    The best shell is windows explorer - i.e. the desktop .

    At least up to now.

    I have had a quick go at pe4 - desktop looks just fine - the important stuff is working - mmc etc.

    But big chunks of code have been removed to stop us doing what we want.

    No start menu of course - Classic shell to the rescue.

    No pin to taskbar, and minimizing a progarm makes it disappear into task mgr like one of those apps.

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  2. #12


    Orbiting the Moon
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    Windows 10 x64

    interesting


    Quote Originally Posted by dfanz0r View Post
    I hate the metro ui but like windows 8 overall.

    This is what i did to disable the metro ui.

    First start up regedit

    then go to:
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon

    Down the list a ways there is the shell entry.

    I changed mine to cmd:


    Now when you restart windows when you log in you will no longer be greeted with the start tiles. But with a cmd window lol.

    IMO this is tons better than metro, been using it like this for a day. No wallpapers, and no watermark.

    But what this also means, is that if someone wrote a full replacement shell for windows we would also have no metro. So someone get on that. Or someone should try to get window 7's explorer.exe to work on windows 8, i've tried it doesn't work.

    Also like this windows explorer browsing files works as normal too. Running explorer.exe doesn't start back up metro and everything, just brings up the file explorer. There are also no more hot corners metro is completely gone .
    image:
    So you need a shell instead of cmd.

    Can we, by chance, use Explorer.exe but with a command parameter for the Desktop (something that gets the same as show desktop)?

    some examples of paremeters:
    Command-Line Switches for Windows Explorer
    How Can I Start Windows Explorer Opened to a Specific Folder? - Hey, Scripting Guy! Blog - Site Home - TechNet Blogs
    Explorer.exe command-line Switches

    Not sure if exists yet but it should be fixable. I'll just use Metro until something solid is found for this tweak.

    Thanks for sharing your idea.

    Hopachi
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  3. #13


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    FXXKMETRO works great for me.

    Best if you click tile to get to desktop - then dble click fxxkmetro.

    Might have a look at starting up fxxkmetro automatically - but it would still be after getting to the desktop.

    There aren't really any replacement shells to speak of - file managers, sure .

    I can think of one possibilty - it is a bit xp looking.

    I might have a go at that in few hours.
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  4. #14


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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    FXXKMETRO works great for me.

    Best if you click tile to get to desktop - then dble click fxxkmetro.

    Might have a look at starting up fxxkmetro automatically - but it would still be after getting to the desktop.

    There aren't really any replacement shells to speak of - file managers, sure .

    I can think of one possibilty - it is a bit xp looking.

    I might have a go at that in few hours.
    Yes, fxxkmetro may work fine now, but what about for RTM? I doubt it.
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  5. #15


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    You are right MS don't want us to avoid metro.

    Not sure if this app. has caused enough attention for them to bother - particularly at this late stage.

    The fact people think MS might try do that shows MS has a big problem.

    They have lost the trust of their customers.
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  6. #16


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    Got it going.

    It now boots to login - sharp splashscreen - sharp desktop.

    No metro start screen - no metro.

    It doesn't save any time because you still have to wait for the desktop replacement to load.

    It also takes a lot of fiddling around to get set up.

    SharpEnviro

    D/l and install - it tells you to reboot.

    Looks awful and laggy at first :

    Go to Configure>Desktop - untick Enable Explorer Desktop - that is what is causing the issue.


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    Then spend ages finding where the settings are and fiddling around.

    Reboot again.

    It can look great - it is highly customizable.



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    Aston Shell is probably easier - but it's not free.

    I did have a copy and license somewhere - can't find it now.
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  7. #17


    Orbiting the Moon
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    Windows 10 x64


    LOL
    That's no Windows anymore. It's Openbox or Gnome now.

    But you made it look good indeed.

    And you even have multiple desktops.

    So it's also free.

    Something for the fans of transparency.
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  8. #18


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    Yes, it is very gnome like.

    I don't know if transparency will work for rtm - MS are still busy butchering.
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  9. #19


    If you dont like metro, you could do this.

    I hate the metro ui but like windows 8 overall.
    I hate the metro ui but like windows 8 overall??!! Windows 8 is Metro and Metro alone!

    Good gracious! The only word you capitalized is the one that refers to yourself.

    This is what think of this thread:

    Let's take a Rembrandt and spray paint it with graffiti.
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  10. #20


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    Windows 8: RP


    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Got it going.

    It now boots to login - sharp splashscreen - sharp desktop.

    No metro start screen - no metro.

    It doesn't save any time because you still have to wait for the desktop replacement to load.

    It also takes a lot of fiddling around to get set up.

    SharpEnviro

    D/l and install - it tells you to reboot.

    Looks awful and laggy at first :

    Go to Configure>Desktop - untick Enable Explorer Desktop - that is what is causing the issue.


    Click image for larger version




    Then spend ages finding where the settings are and fiddling around.

    Reboot again.

    It can look great - it is highly customizable.



    Click image for larger version


    Aston Shell is probably easier - but it's not free.

    I did have a copy and license somewhere - can't find it now.
    LOL wow that looks really messed up. xD I don't think I'd want a program that uses transparency and will ultimately LAG the starting of the computer because it'd have to boot up every single time. You'd have to get rid of all your desktop icons so they wont load in able to load this only. And you might as well disable anti virus at boot also because this thing looks like it'd take forever to boot!....Nahhh I'll stick with Metro.

    Also those who hate Metro, I got some advice too. Stay in Windows 7. LOL besides there is some perfect Windows 8 visual styles you could easily install and use to make it look like 8.
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