is there a way to get back start menu button in desktop mode?

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I find the new Windows 8 "start" lack the hierarchical organisation. After I installed a view programs the "start" page just become a big pile of mess. I would like to get the start button on the desktop. Is there a way to do it?
 

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There are Start Button/Menu alternatives like ViStart, Start Menu 7 and Vista Start Menu available downloadable for free from the Internet. However, there is no built-in ability to take back the old Start Menu and Button that's why you have to rely on those alternatives.
 

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There is a free program out there called classic shell, works better than any other that I tried, has right click options, and you can drag icons to and from the start menu, you can't do that in vistart

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That is the question so many are asking.

I am afraid MS have ripped out the start menu code.

They did it deliberately to try and force users to the start screen with all the apps.


You will have to use a 3rd party alternative - some good ones have already been suggested.

Classic shell is good - startmenu7 has a very different design - see which you prefer.
 

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Not the Start Menu, but the built in Quick Launch is still available:- Users\\Appdata\Roaming\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Quick Launch. I use it, with small icons, as it doesn't take up as much space as pinned programs on the Task Bar
 

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Isn't the whole of the Taskbar quick launch, since Vista? Small icons are an option also, for the taskbar
 

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No, Quick Launch is a separate toolbar. Yes, small icons can be selected for the Task Bar, but they are still larger than those for Quick Launch
 

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OMG. I'm old. I can only just see the small icons on the taskbar - lol. I think you will find, if you research, that the so-called "quick launch" is redundant. Your post is only referring to an extra toolbar. There is not, I think, any difference in the size of the icons either.

Have a look here:
Quick Launch Toolbar
 

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I'm old also! Microsoft would like us to think that Quick Launch is redundant, I'm glad it is still included. The Task Bar icons are about twice the width of the Quick Launch icons, the actual icon image is much the same size, but the Task Bar icons have a wide background. The page you referenced also points out other advantages of Quick Launch.
 

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The quick launch IS redundant, as such. I say again, what you are suggesting is only another toolbar, which has always been available. What advantage do you see in it, except to make more room?

Tell me, This is my computer, maybe there are variations. Where do you see a difference in size?


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Here's mine, with Quick-Launch set up and working, and Start Menu 7 installed.

Suits me just fine.....
 

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Believe me, I am not splitting hairs, or trying to make a big issue of this, but I am trying to find clarification for the use of the quick launch in Windows 7/8. It was originally invented, so that users could place their most used shortcuts somewhere visible, rather than the desktop, where they are hidden by other opened programs. With the introduction of the ability to "Pin" shortcuts to the taskbar, in Vista, there was no longer any useful function. It has finally been dropped in Windows 8. Could those who still try and implement it, and are, therefore, using the desktop in Windows 8, please tell me why they see it as an advantage?
 

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Speaking for myself, I have my seldom-used progs in the Start
menu, frequently-used stuff in the Quick-Launch, and anything
current/pending gets pinned.

I don't have a C:\ drive full of junk and clutter, and don't like a
crowded taskbar, so, for me, it works just fine.
 

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I see from your picture you have at least one duplication? Why not just pin those "quick launch" items directly to the Taskbar - even less clutter?
 

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Believe me, I am not splitting hairs, or trying to make a big issue of this, but I am trying to find clarification for the use of the quick launch in Windows 7/8. It was originally invented, so that users could place their most used shortcuts somewhere visible, rather than the desktop, where they are hidden by other opened programs. With the introduction of the ability to "Pin" shortcuts to the taskbar, in Vista, there was no longer any useful function. It has finally been dropped in Windows 8. Could those who still try and implement it, and are, therefore, using the desktop in Windows 8, please tell me why they see it as an advantage?

That's a little confused. It wasn't Vista that introduced pinning, it was Windows 7. That said, your premise is correct; the Quick Launch bar is obsolete in Windows 7 and was always pretty lame. Before Windows 7, I'd disable it and use an alternative program launcher like jetToolbar, because the whole Start Menu/Desktop (and later Quick Launch) means of launching programs was always horribly inadequate, which I recognized when I first saw it in 1995 having used similar systems in the past, except for the Start Menu, which was uniquely horrible, being hard to navigate and GOING AWAY when something is selected from it, forcing you to do the whole navigation all over again from scratch.

It is puzzling why a lot of people cling to Quick Launch and not only fail to recognize the greatness of the Windows 7 taskbar merging the original window-switching mission of the taskbar with program launching and the new jump lists, progress indicators, etc, but actually hate it. I would estimate at least half my posts on this board have been attempts to educate a number of people on these things, but they just don't get it. People like their systems with slab buttons that appear at semi-random locations and display useless, ugly truncated text, just like they learned it in Windows 95, things I always hated. They moan about the taskbar taking up more space, but I would wager the vast majority of them can afford to give up some space, if they would just try it. As I've written before several times, I'm sympathetic to being reluctant to do that and was surprised that it was not only OK but worked out great. Meanwhile, they don't care that using Quick Launch means you waste space when you run programs because you've got icons in two places on the taskbar. They also don't care about wasting space in the taskbar when it's not full of window icons for active programs and is almost completely empty. Again, I've written a ton of posts talking about these things. Here's a recent one, and it links to an older one where I go into detail on what I use and why and give a screenshot.
 

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The IE icons?

32-bit and 64-bit versions.
 

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I don't NEED educating, Crawfish, and I get it just fine.

And I will use the taskbar whichever way suits me.

As can you. That's it's strength. We set it up to suit US.

There are MANY different ways to get things done in Windows.

NONE are 'wrong' or 'retarded' they're just different.

It's one of the reasons Windows has been so successful for so long.

I'm no more or less experienced/knowledgeable than anyone else,but I
do know what works for me. Why change that, if it isn't necessary?


**Edit: - I do, however, agree with you re the early renditions of the Start
menu, now they WERE horrid. I never actually bothered with it until Vista.
 

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"That's a little confused. It wasn't Vista that introduced pinning, it was Windows 7."

Thanks for the correction, Crawfish. It was a bit of a guess and I honestly could not remember. But thank you for emphasising my point regarding the quick launch bar more lucidly!
 

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