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I don't miss Start Menu at all: Here's Why

  1. #11

    New York State
    Posts : 28
    Win 7/Win 8 CP Dual Boot

    This is my latest Desktop layout. The Taskbar auto hides between uses. This just happens to be the background displayed at present. Changes each 10 minutes. I like variety. I have approx. 100 landscapes in my themes folder that I shuffle through. Notice the uncluttered look. Plus I still have lots of space on the taskbar.

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  2. #12

    Portsmouth Hants
    Posts : 772
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center

    I just use the desktop toolbar, and hide the desktop and toolbar icons, nothing pinned:
    Click image for larger version Just opening the toolbar gets me most of the functionality I need
    Click image for larger version Any new applications just need shortcuts on the desktop - with the Icons unhidden, the desktop would look like this:
    Click image for larger version Just slide the taskbar divider, and the menu becomes a launch bar. I've also got a clock gadget to hover over:
    Click image for larger version Or a calendar:
    Click image for larger version I can close or log off or restart:
    Click image for larger version And if I want to find something on a deep path, without opening lots of windows and doing lots of clicks, I can:
    Click image for larger version I've not got a lot of use for Apps, as such, but Metro is there if I need it:
    Click image for larger versionNow, how do I get rid of the start button in Windows 7 and XP? ...
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  3. #13

    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7

    Yeah right. Toolbars are the way to go. I use them in Windows 7 too and really have no need for the Start. And for the shortcuts that I use all the time, I have the hidden Rocket Dock. It is all a matter of proper organization.
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  4. #14

    Posts : 5,360
    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin

    No, it is a matter of preference.

    Some people like to have toolbars - some prefer the start menu -some use both - some use 3rd party app. like rocketdock - some use all kinds of combinations .

    Some like to have desktop icons showing, some do not.

    I don't like toolbars myself - I find them messy . I prefer to have most things (including fly out menus - same thing as toolbars, really) in the start menu. It much neater and more convenient having it all tucked away in just one little orb. That is my personal preference.

    I am very happy that the ability to create toolbars is included - because other folk want them.

    I certainly do not want to see that function removed.
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  5. #15

    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7

    I don't like toolbars myself - I find them messy
    What is the messy part?
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  6. #16

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    I don't like the look of them.

    E.G. I am constantly going back and forth between 17 drives , I also frequently use recent items - dozens of times - perhaps hundreds of times a day. So I have all those and several other things in the right of the start menu - flying out as a menu. In a sense those are like toolbars.

    I also have several shortcuts in the left of the start menu - things I use a fair amount - but not as often as the ones on the taskbar. That keeps the desktop icon count down. Under that is the All Programs section - I don't that part terribly often - only to get at rarely used stuff.

    It is all accessible easily and quickly from one little orb - it looks neat, too.


    I can't think of a better way to access what I want.

    It might not suit everyone - it isn't to easy for you perhaps because of your vision - but it should be there for those who want it.

    MS spent a lot of time and effort improving it over the years.

    Now they have taken it away.

    Not because it is better for the user not to have it - but because it is better for MS.

    If the start menu was still there, most people would use it all the time - therefore they would not go to the kindergarten screen.

    MS want you to go to to the kindergarten screen because that is how they coax/exhort the easily led to go into the MS clouds.
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  7. #17

    The last several posts in this thread illustrate an important point: because different people are doing different things in different ways, It helps that Windows often has more than one way of doing things.

    Windows 8 allows you to do things in different ways, and there are free apps to add more ways. I installed the Vista Start Button, it works fine, and I'm happy. If you want to use another method, that's fine, too.
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  8. #18

    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7

    I don't like the look of them.
    What's wrong with the looks?

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  9. #19

    Posts : 5,360
    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin

    Yes, you can replicate the functions that have been removed.

    The point is - many people - the "average user", won't do that.

    The average user will be constantly presented with the start screen - they will almost certainly sign in with their Id - get a couple of apps., sync their devices - that will lead to them uploading stuff to share with granny into skydrive,etc

    Before you know it , they will be reliant on the MS online services.

    The next Windows in 3 or 4 years will be almost unusable unless you do that.

    There will be charging for the online services - gradually introduced

    The next one after that in 6 or 7 years - it will be compulsory.

    Hundreds of millions will be entrenched in the MS clouds with enormous barriers to leaving - just think of the hassle.

    The next Windows after that - entirely dependent on doing everything via MS online - possibly your entire o/s and data will be stored there - you will boot up online.

    It is a retrograde step in many ways. It will certainly cost.

    That is what metro is for. That is why MS removed the start menu.
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  10. #20

    Posts : 1,851
    8250 x86 + 7 SP1 x86 + Ubuntu 12.04 LTS x86

    All I want to know is how to get this stupid Charms Bar to stop appearing when I'm doing my thing on my ancient, antiquated, very very old, crusty desktop. heh
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