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Classical Menu WITHOUT using 3rd party apps or system mods

  1. #11


    The choice is a tough one do I:
    1. Press the Start Button and then the All Programs link
    2. Go back to the Start Screen with the Windows key or Right-click lower left corner of monitor
    3. Just click on the Program Toolbar created with this trick to see All Programs


    One click or Two
    for me the best choice is #3. It's out in the open and I see All Programs with just one click.

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  2. #12


    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    That is just a programs flyout. It not a start menu. Very different.

    This is much more useful:

    Attachment 17629
    No, it is not.
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  4. #14


    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post

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  5. #15


    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrShowdown View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    That is just a programs flyout. It not a start menu. Very different.

    This is much more useful:

    Attachment 17629
    No, it is not.
    Hi there
    The post said basically that you could ALMOST replicate a start menu functionality -- I didn't say you would HAVE a start menu - and in any case I still think this method IS more useful than the old fashioned start menu - which can almost take ALL your screen if you have a lot of applications.

    I think it's actually MUCH easier creating one or two toolbars --

    In any case the other point was to show that the whole "Menu" thing really isn't that big of a deal if you are 100% honest with yourselves.

    There's plenty of valid reasons for not liking W8 -- even "I just don't like it" is good enough but some complaints don't really seem to be particularly hard to overcome or get round, - Whether you SHOULD have to make these "fixes" is another issue of course but if you want to continue with W7 -- and if your system runs fine -- you can stay with it at least until 2020 -- and why not.

    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Yeah I have it
    You have what?
    What, what?
    The Start Menu of course.
    That be it on the Win7 PC I got, doesn't really matter.
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  7. #17


    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    That is just a programs flyout. It not a start menu. Very different.

    This is much more useful:

    Attachment 17629


    Is there a difference from pressing the programs button on the right side and pressing the all programs button on the left side?
    It still takes 2 clicks to view the All programs list. No time saved (focus + click on start button,—WAIT— focus + click on programs button)
    Programs toolbar only requires focus + one click—no waiting

    Maybe it would be nice to have another toolbar with the right half of the start menu. To have the ability to click on Computer, Pictures, Run, etc.
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    There's nothing new about a Quick Launch additional toolbar except in 8 you need it. Quick Launch - Enable or Disable - Windows 7 Help Forums

    I have several on 7 for separating quick access to select programs like IE, WaterFox, WLMail, Windows Explorer(pinned a second time as well as IE and EF), VirtualBox, VM Player, UltraISO, PowerISO, etc.. Now the next will be for strictly System functions out of the Control Panel as well as shortcuts to the exes for different services without the need to type service into Start>Search and click a few more times.

    Then comes all those utility programs in another Quick Launch tool bar for Acronis as well as System Info For Windows, Core Temp, and other monitoring programs as well as Defraggler, Speccy, EasyBCD, LiberKey, 7Taskbar Tweaker, Win7 Diag, and the list goes on and on. And then you add the Desktop toolbar for Documents, User account, Computer, Control Panel, etc. for that one. And then lastly two more for a large number of Steam and other game titles divided up between two folders on the drive to cover all the bases. You can pin an All Programs on Vista as well as 7 and 8 as well as seeing a Program Files on XP tool bar made up.
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  9. #19


    Night Hawk— There's a difference between having quick launch pinned to the taskbar. Which always shows the icons.
    And a quick launch toolbar. Which only shows the icons when you click the arrow for the popout.


    For toolbar shortcut

    right click the task bar, Toolbars & click New Toolbar

    copy/ paste line into Folder name box at bottom

    %ProgramData%\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs

    — or—

    %userprofile%\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Quick Launch

    and click Select Folder
    now you have a new toolbar with menu on a mouseclick
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  10. #20


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    Quote Originally Posted by pcRat View Post
    Night Hawk— There's a difference between having quick launch pinned to the taskbar. Which always shows the icons.
    And a quick launch toolbar. Which only shows the icons when you click the arrow for the popout.
    Always shows icons? The Quick Launch type addon toolbar shows the shortcuts you drag into a new folder on C: only when bringing out the new toolbar when going to use something there. The rest of the time the new toolbar is only seen by how you set it up with or without the first item showing. When having multiple toolbars the first on some will tend be half way revealed until unlocking the taskbar itself to make some adjustments and then locking it up again.

    Win 7 brought in the pin to taskbar alternative to the previous XP-Vista Quick Launch enabled or disbled section you would see hidden from view until clicking the same type of arrow you see in the System notification area presently. You found the option to use the Quick Launch previously tucked away in the Taskbar-Start menu properties screen options there.

    When not finding the Control Panel or having that displayed in Windows Explorer which is already pinned to the taskbar there's even a better option then digging into the user account for that second one's limited items. Desktop Toolbar on Taskbar - Add or Remove - Windows 7 Help Forums[2]=Taskbar%20Start%20Menu

    The new toolbar for that may see two Control Panel items one for individual items on a jump list or the second to bring up a new window for the CP itself.

    Click image for larger version

    You'll note the user account folder is present along some other useful items seen there.
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