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Sign out screen different from lock screen?

  1. #11


    Posts : 2
    Windows 8


    So has anyone "fixed" this yet?... I've had the OS installed about a week now, set up three other local accounts for each of my children, and the Seatlle screen upon sign out of any of us is really bugging me. One, because I don't like the image, two, because it doesn't seem to be changeable by option. Of course none of our personal lock screens or others elsewhere are of this selection.

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  2. #12


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    Windows 8.1 Pro, iOS 7.1, Elementary OS


    It is a changeable option, heres some pictures.

    1. + C and click settings
    Click image for larger version

    2. Click "Change PC Settings"
    Click image for larger version

    3. Change under the first Personalize tab "Lock Screen".
    Click image for larger version

    Enjoy your Windows 8 experience.
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  3. #13


    Posts : 2
    Windows 8


    Unfortunately, Fitz, that doesn't do it... there is a more detailed description higher in the thread from another user, but essentially when you have a system set up with multiple user accounts and someone signs out, the "Seattle screen" shows up by default. Even though none of the users have it selected to represent any kind of lock screen, background, or other image of any kind. Doesn't matter who is logged on then logs off, it will always default to that seattle screen when there is no one logged in. Of course, when a user is logged in and the machine is locked, the appropriate choice selected by that user is shown. It is only when someone logs off. I might add that upon start up, a correctly chosen "lock screen" is shown before anyone logs on.

    I might try to dig around some more elsewhere today to see what I can find. Will post back here if I see anything else. Or maybe someone can chime in if they've found a solution yet.
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  4. #14


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    The Sign Out screen is stored in:

    Lock Screen Default Background Image - Change in Windows 8


    C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\SystemData\S-1-5-18\ReadOnly\LockScreen_Z

    You need to turn on the Show Files and Folders option from Folders Options in order to see it.

    Here's how to change the sign out screen:


    1. go to folder C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows
      Right click on SystemData ->Properies->Security->Advanced->Change
    2. Enter your user name (You must be in Administrators group), then click on Check Names->OK
    3. Place a tick on "Replace owner on subcontainers and objects", click Apply ->OK, Yes->OK->OK->OK


    Go to C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\SystemData\S-1-5-18\ReadOnly\LockScreen_Z

    You will see 2 images of the Seattle Space needle in this folder, To view these 2 images.

    1. Right click on it->Properties->Securities->Edit->Add
    2. Enter your user name, Click on Check Names->OK->OK->OK


    Replace these 2 images with whatever images you want, make sure they have the same names and resolution as shown in LockScreen_Z.

    IMPORTANT: After swapping the images, Right click on image->Properties->Securities->Edit
    Make sure SYSTEM is in the user list with permission shown below:
    (If SYSTEM is not in the list, you have to add it to the list using the 2 steps above)

    1. Read&Execute
    2. Read


    Sign out, you should see the new Image.
    Last edited by Brink; 01 Dec 2014 at 14:48. Reason: added tutorial link for more info
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  5. #15


    Posts : 1
    Windows8Pro64


    Thanks so much. It is good not to have the Space Needle screen anymore. It took two attempts; a word to others -- follow the directions explicitly! Should the folder permissions be changed back? Is there a negative downside to having made this change?
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  6. #16


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    Quote Originally Posted by walter619 View Post
    Thanks so much. It is good not to have the Space Needle screen anymore. It took two attempts; a word to others -- follow the directions explicitly! Should the folder permissions be changed back? Is there a negative downside to having made this change?
    Actually there are 2 other threads asking the same question and so far I have not heard anybody mentioning about the side effect. The SID => S-1-5-18 is belonged to the User: SYSTEM, so as long as SYSTEM is on the list and has full control, that should not effect anything.
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  7. #17


    Posts : 20
    Windows 8 x64


    topguncp, Thanks a lot



    Quote Originally Posted by walter619 View Post
    Should the folder permissions be changed back? Is there a negative downside to having made this change?
    I noticed another folder in SystemData contains the PicturePassword image so I guess if you have enabled that it is better to change back the folder permission.
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  8. #18


    Posts : 20
    Windows 8 x64


    Here's a quick way to disable the image

    Lock Screen - Enable or Disable in Windows 8
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  9. #19


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    Quote Originally Posted by wins View Post
    Here's a quick way to disable the image

    Lock Screen - Enable or Disable in Windows 8
    The tutorial shows how to bypass both the Lock Screen & Sign Out Screen. The OP question is how to replace the image on the Sign Out screen
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  10. #20


    Posts : 1
    Windows 8


    There is another problem attached to this.. The power settings for default monitor shut off are also NOT set the same as a true users lock screen.

    I have a windows 8 machine with 2 users.. If either log out then I am presented with this nasty space needle or whatever you guys are calling it lock screen. If this can be changed my messing around thats fine, but what about the power settings..

    What an oversight here by Microsoft.
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