Emotion is a fatal flaw in analysis.
I was going to post this elsewhere, but the thread starter decided to suggest closing the thread. When posters get into a thread discussion that gets sticky, it's kind of, a little embarrassing, or funny. Unless these posts get deleted, they will remain. It's like a memory you want to forget but cannot. Then you can critique your post into another thread and reapply the same argument to another topic. Oh well. Emotion is not a good basis for making a point. Which is why arguing that tile placement from app installs invalidates the competency of Windows 8 to function as a desktop Operating System is not realistic. Just making the statement that you prefer a start menu to the new UI is enough.
It was disappointing to me when Microsoft eliminated the option to use a classic start menu in Windows 7. Also in Vista, you could change the system fonts and menu fonts. They eliminated that option in Windows 7. In the Windows 7 start menu, the double pane start menu became unresizable. This was a new unfeature in Windows 7. I have never seen a registry edit that could resize the square blocky look of the Windows 7 start menu. The group policy editor was not available in home premium. The standard edits were never enough if one wanted to get rid of useless links on the right pane of the Windows 7 start menu. Edits would just make more blank space on the right pane. The left side of the menu had to be filled with recently used programs (or pinned programs) or else it would be a big blank space on the left pane. Therefore, I was always seeking to replace the Windows 7 start menu with something else, like the classic shell or a shell replacement (for Windows 7) or a docking system. Just like people are doing in Windows 8. It's getting a bit foggy now, since I haven't used Windows 7 for more than a few days during the past year. I don't miss it really. I like the edges in 8, hotspots etc...
Opinions vary about the start screen and all apps. How they are used or what they should be like or do, what Microsoft should be responsible for, what is the best configuration etiquette. Rants about tile counts are not very productive. Windows 8 is whatever you think it is. It may be considered junk or useless, unintuitive, bogus, a waste of money, not worth the effort or a rip off. These are emotional responses to a piece of software. They do not have much contemplative depth or relevant analysis. Since Windows 8 is in play globally, different socio-economic philosophies will affect its success or failure in the marketplace. Likes and dislikes are a part of it, as well as the initial appearance of the start screen. I am sure that Microsoft's plan was not to create a failure, but rather to make something that people would like. It would be illogical to assume the board of trustees authorized the production of Windows 8 without adequate roundtable discussions by very skilled people. It is also illogical to assume that Microsoft would knowingly release a bad product. If and when problems do and will occur, as in the auto industry (with recalls), updates and upgrades are always made available. Another point others have made is that if they voice their complaints and opposition enough, Microsoft might reverse course or alter their plans to suit the desktop professionals. They may be right or just emotional because going back to a previous vision of what an Operating System should be is like time travel into an alternate economic reality. Considering what the cost of producing an Operating System (mega millions) is in 35 languages, it seems unlikely that it would make economic sense. The state of the PC is in disarray and decline. Microsoft is attempting to keep it relevant and popular. They might fail due to the negative reviews. Most of the negative reviews online are based on an emotional response or dislike. There is little adaptive reasoning. In other words, how does one make this work effectively, since that is the product Microsoft is offering. Of course, since consumers are stuck with Microsoft and Apple (or linux), it becomes very controversial. They don't like it, they won't buy it. I am forced to use it. There can be no resolution to this problem unless Microsoft decides to close its doors, pay off all the stockholders, disband the board of trustees, phase out all contracts and retire its business model and sell off its properties. Then we might see a new Operating System emerge.
I was going to post this elsewhere, but the thread starter decided to suggest closing the thread. When posters get into a thread discussion that gets sticky, it's kind of, a little embarrassing, or funny. Unless these posts get deleted, they will remain. It's like a memory you want to forget but cannot. Then you can critique your post into another thread and reapply the same argument to another topic. Oh well. Emotion is not a good basis for making a point. Which is why arguing that tile placement from app installs invalidates the competency of Windows 8 to function as a desktop Operating System is not realistic. Just making the statement that you prefer a start menu to the new UI is enough.
It was disappointing to me when Microsoft eliminated the option to use a classic start menu in Windows 7. Also in Vista, you could change the system fonts and menu fonts. They eliminated that option in Windows 7. In the Windows 7 start menu, the double pane start menu became unresizable. This was a new unfeature in Windows 7. I have never seen a registry edit that could resize the square blocky look of the Windows 7 start menu. The group policy editor was not available in home premium. The standard edits were never enough if one wanted to get rid of useless links on the right pane of the Windows 7 start menu. Edits would just make more blank space on the right pane. The left side of the menu had to be filled with recently used programs (or pinned programs) or else it would be a big blank space on the left pane. Therefore, I was always seeking to replace the Windows 7 start menu with something else, like the classic shell or a shell replacement (for Windows 7) or a docking system. Just like people are doing in Windows 8. It's getting a bit foggy now, since I haven't used Windows 7 for more than a few days during the past year. I don't miss it really. I like the edges in 8, hotspots etc...
Opinions vary about the start screen and all apps. How they are used or what they should be like or do, what Microsoft should be responsible for, what is the best configuration etiquette. Rants about tile counts are not very productive. Windows 8 is whatever you think it is. It may be considered junk or useless, unintuitive, bogus, a waste of money, not worth the effort or a rip off. These are emotional responses to a piece of software. They do not have much contemplative depth or relevant analysis. Since Windows 8 is in play globally, different socio-economic philosophies will affect its success or failure in the marketplace. Likes and dislikes are a part of it, as well as the initial appearance of the start screen. I am sure that Microsoft's plan was not to create a failure, but rather to make something that people would like. It would be illogical to assume the board of trustees authorized the production of Windows 8 without adequate roundtable discussions by very skilled people. It is also illogical to assume that Microsoft would knowingly release a bad product. If and when problems do and will occur, as in the auto industry (with recalls), updates and upgrades are always made available. Another point others have made is that if they voice their complaints and opposition enough, Microsoft might reverse course or alter their plans to suit the desktop professionals. They may be right or just emotional because going back to a previous vision of what an Operating System should be is like time travel into an alternate economic reality. Considering what the cost of producing an Operating System (mega millions) is in 35 languages, it seems unlikely that it would make economic sense. The state of the PC is in disarray and decline. Microsoft is attempting to keep it relevant and popular. They might fail due to the negative reviews. Most of the negative reviews online are based on an emotional response or dislike. There is little adaptive reasoning. In other words, how does one make this work effectively, since that is the product Microsoft is offering. Of course, since consumers are stuck with Microsoft and Apple (or linux), it becomes very controversial. They don't like it, they won't buy it. I am forced to use it. There can be no resolution to this problem unless Microsoft decides to close its doors, pay off all the stockholders, disband the board of trustees, phase out all contracts and retire its business model and sell off its properties. Then we might see a new Operating System emerge.
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