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Think I am getting a new laptop

  1. #11


    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Some of the later macbooks are using SSD drives along with over the top Intel processors. You can stick Windows 8 on one with the same hardware and achieve the same and more, especially if the chip supports connected standby. But 1,000 dollars for a refurbished 13 inch laptop? Keeping my apple bias aside, the mathematical logistics side of me finds that to be preposterous. You can buy a new ultrabook with about a 15 inch screen and I think a SSD for that amount.
    The MacBook air comes with a 128GB SSD for that $1,000 pricetag. This model of MacBook Air was made in June of 2012 (so 3 months old), and it's $1019 versus $1199 if I were to buy it new. So, I still get 1 year warranty, and I save myself $180 by getting it refurbished.

    Please find me a suitable ultrabook replacement which includes all of the features I would get for a much smaller pricetag. It needs to have

    • Core i5 1.8Ghz or above
    • 4GB of RAM or more
    • Minimum resolution of 1440x900
    • 128GB SSD
    • USB 3.0 ports
    • 7+ hour battery
    • Intel HD4000 or above graphics
    • Keep weight around 3lbs
    • I don't want a screen over 14", that's what my laptop has now and it's as big as I would want in a portable.


    The cheapest one I have found thus far on NewEgg is an HP Envy at $939 (Newegg.com - HP ENVY Spectre XT 13-2050NR 13.3-inch Ultrabook - Silver), which doesn't make that $1,019 seem preposterous to me. Especially considering it's a slower core i5 CPU and has less resolution than the machine above.

    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Yes, VM performance with mac isn't good, unless if you have a high end Intel chip. Doing Core Duo or i3 might not be the best performing chip for that.
    So, considering my current work laptop is a core 2 Duo, and my home desktop is a Core 2 Quad Q9550...neither of those would be very appealing.


    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    I'm also kind of curious as to see how apple people react to the Start Screen as I've read a few stories of long time apple fanboys switching over to Windows because of 8.
    Which Apple people do you expect me to show Windows 8 to? I don't really have a lot of Apple fanboy friends?

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  2. #12


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    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Your best bet on the newegg (as you were considering a refurbished macbook) is to look at refurbs as well as to keep options balanced. I can't guarantee screen size, long battery life, or weight, but I can guarantee HD resolution, an NVIDIA mobile graphics chip, a 2.00-60 Ghz i7 processor, USB 3, and probably 8 gigs of RAM for about 700-800 dollars just about. The remainder can be used to pop in a new SSD drive and possibly a new battery. If possible, a larger battery capacity as well.
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  3. #13


    ^ Find it for me. For what it's worth, you can get the MacBook Air that I was looking at for $1099 at Best Buy right now and it's not refurbished. Make sure it's an Ultrabook, or something small too. You said that my price was preposterous for what I was getting, but I'm looking for some proof. While a bit more expensive, I don't think the price is all that bad.
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  4. #14


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    For the caliber of hardware of an i7 or i5, a mobile NVIDIA chip, lots of RAM and STILL have money left to upgrade a couple of parts and still be under a $1,000 versus a new mac...it doesn't take a genius.

    Oh, for context's sake, I was assuming that if the software that was used is on the mac platform, I'd figure there would a couple of people that would be using a mac. I'm curious as to see if someone using a mac gets interested with Windows 8.
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  5. #15


    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    For the caliber of hardware of an i7 or i5, a mobile NVIDIA chip, lots of RAM and STILL have money left to upgrade a couple of parts and still be under a $1,000 versus a new mac...it doesn't take a genius.
    Well, it's easy to talk and say you can do it and match the hardware and have it be better, yadda, yadda, yadda. But yet, you haven't linked to any specific machine which matches the spec and comes in substantially cheaper....although you called the price of the Macbook Air preposterous.

    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Oh, for context's sake, I was assuming that if the software that was used is on the mac platform, I'd figure there would a couple of people that would be using a mac. I'm curious as to see if someone using a mac gets interested with Windows 8.
    Do you honestly think I am going to be able to convince an audio team who has spent millions of dollars on high end amps, line array speakers, high end console mixing boards, state of the art wireless monitors and microphones to ditch all of their macs and try out a PC? And you think they might want to make a switch simply because of the new UI experience. You are nuts. Hence the reason that I am probably going to get a mac and just learn it because it's what I am going to be using in this position for the forseeable future.
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  6. #16


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    I've found a couple of refurbed ones. One in particular isn't an ultrabook per se, but the specs are worthwhile. An HP Elitebook with an i7 processor (I think clock range is 2-3.1 GHz, not sure though), 4 gigs of RAM, 128 gig SSD, dedicated AMD Radeon 6470?m, and roughly 5-8 hour battery life. It's more of a solid looking slab, screen resolution is 1600x900 and it's a 14 inch screen. Cost is I believe over 750.

    I'll post the link later as I'm not at home and don't have a puter on hand. I've been browsing Newegg with my Windows Phone app.

    And no, I don't expect them to switch to Windows, I'm just curious what their reactions will be to it.
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  7. #17


    Ok, based on what you gave me, I found this on the NewEgg site, it's $705
    Newegg.com - Refurbished: HP EliteBook 8460p (LJ498UTR#ABA) Notebook Intel Core i5 2540M(2.60GHz) 14" 4GB Memory DDR3 1333 128GB SSD HDD DVD+/-RW SuperMulti DL AMD Radeon HD 6470M

    That price is pretty solid, but I would be a bit concerned with the 90 day warranty on a refurbished unit. And NewEgg lists it as 4.5lbs, but I think they got their numbers backwards as the other sites all list it as 5.4lbs.

    There is no question that the Mac isn't the cheapest option out there, but all in all, it's not terribly overpriced either. In this case, it will help me to learn mac and OSX..and that is the most important point at this point for me.
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  8. #18


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    Quote Originally Posted by skallal View Post
    I bought a used Mac Mini last month. Haven't been able look at myself in the mirror every since, lol!
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  9. #19


    Actually buying the laptop is harder than expected. I've had it in my cart, i looked at it at Best Buy and simply haven't been able to click on Submit and charge my credit card. If I wouldn't have had so many other life expenses, this would be easy, but it's just one more bill to have to pay off.
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  10. #20


    For me, the allure of a Mac, is iOS programming. I've been wanting to get a Mac for at least a couple years now, ever since the iPad came out. So when I finally bit the bullet, I got a secondhand Mac Mini mid 2010. It is still a core two duo, but has eight gigs of ram. So it's not particularly a fast machine, but once it boots up you can load a lot of programs.

    So I finally checked out Xcode, which is Apple's answer to Visual Studio. All the Apple development tools are free or inexpensive, while Microsoft to you either get the express editions of Visual Studio or pay through the nose for the full editions. For me the answer is pretty clear, Microsoft is the way to go. I already know the languages used to develop Metro UI apps. Apple uses a language called Objective-C, a favorite of Steve Jobs while he was with Next. Plus I'm already familiar with Microsoft's development environment and have been for years. I was worried that the Windows Store wasn't going to take off, certainly during the preview period. But now that Windows 8 has gone to RTM, the store has really filled up with a lot of new apps. My gamble is that it would be best for me to learn how to write apps for the Windows Store, rather than learn Apple's way of doing things and write apps for Apple's App Store. Certainly there will be a demand for Metro UI apps in the not-too-distant future, since Microsoft has a huge amount of catch up to do.

    So my original reason for getting the Mac seems to have evaporated. Now I'm letting the Mac mini become my media center, as it seems to do pretty good in that regard. Now I need to pry myself away from my new Apple toy, and play with my Samsung Slate some more, and learn to write Metro UI apps.

    So here I am about 30 days into my Apple experiment. Meh!
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