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Iphone 5 - Stick to Samsung or new Nokia Windows 8 phone

  1. #91


    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Hi there
    We've already run out of Ipv4 addresses in Europe -- any new business will only be granted a new IPV4 address under extreme circumstances. - Expired domains are now going for a premium. !!

    One thing about Capitalism -- it doesn't matter what the service is -- there's always a market -- and love it or hate it that's how it works --and I quite like it so long as it's an "open" and "Fair" market". (Sometimes not always the case but I can't think of any other system that works anything like as well -- and real mis-users of the system are eventually caught and put away however much money they earn. Might take a while but most real abusers of the market are eventually caught and punished).

    Actually in fact the lack of IPV4 addresses isn't too horrendous so long as your service provider can do a sort of "IPV4==>IPV6===<IPV4 conversion algorithim so the real address is "User / Browser transparent".

    so if I type in say Battersea Dogs & Cats Home, rehoming dogs and cats, promoting responsible pet ownership - Battersea Dogs & Cats Home for the very well known Dogs home in S.London -- the service provider (ISP) should be able to translate that to a "Pseudo IPV4" address that my browser could access. The ISP would have to intercept the Real IP address and then just forward the pages its rendered.

    I'm not a developer of this sort of stuff but it should be possible to devise some sort of mechanism that would allow people to carry on using browsers as before whether or not the real address was IPV4 or IPV6.

    The point of this is still to say that there is no reason to suppose VOIP will become redundant whether we use IPV4 / IPV6 or whatever in the future -- and the Telcos are basically wasting their time in developing these 4 . 5G services.

    After all who these days has an ADSL line --remember that expensive trick -- ordinary broadband soon killed that off for most people --although of course initially UPLOAD speed was hugely slower than DOWNLOAD speed.

    Cheers
    jimbo

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    I came across this poll yesterday on Wired website. When I first went to the site there were approx. 9000 votes and the iPhone 5 had a commanding lead followed by the Galaxy S3 then the Nokia 920. Since then the Nokia 920 has been getting the most votes and now has a commanding lead after about 25,000 votes. As for the article itself it is typically biased, this one stating that spec wise these phones are pretty much the same yet the 920 surpasses the others in tech. Regardless of the biased articles that are being published, just reading the comments in them you can see that the 920 is a game changer. The S3 has already sold over 20 Million units, if the 920 is that much more interesting to people than the S3 as the poll indicates we should start to see Windows Phone taking some market share.

    Apple iPhone 5 Specs Versus the Competition's: Which Will You Buy? | Gadget Lab | Wired.com
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  3. #93


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    Well then, that escalated quickly. That Wired poll that R0bR posted has dramatically changed statistically. The iphone was reining in first place. Nope, not anymore. The Nokia Lumia 920 has a whopping, overwhelming majority of 56%, or roughly 21,000 votes. The iphone 5 is second at 21% of the vote, Samsung GSIII third.

    Very interesting indeed...
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  4. #94


    And even though these stats would have you believe that nobody cares whatsoever about the new iPhone, you get a story like this.

    Apple?s iPhone 5 Release Shatters Sales Records, Called The ?Rolex Of Smartphones? By Analyst - International Business Times
    Apple's iPhone 5 has been called the most anticipated smartphone launch in history, and the device's pre-order numbers have proven this to be true. After completely selling out in just one hour on Sept. 14, theiPhone 5 set a new pre-order record for both AT&T and Apple. Apple fans ordered more sixth-generation iPhones from AT&T than any other previous model during its first day of sales and over the weekend.
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  5. #95


    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Hi there
    I'm not sure what else you would expect the CEO of APPLE to say -- certainly not -- "Our Iphones are horrible -- don't buy them".

    The Market is a harsh place -- it will decide -- however current indications seem to suggest that the Iphone 5 is going for the upgrade market --it's not making any converts amongst Non Apple users and certainly not amongst the latest smart Samsung, HTC or even Nokia users.

    Even the article mentions Apple fans are buying these --but Apple needs to eat into the "Non Apple" market of course to grow the business in the long term and this is just not happening.


    Once the sales pitch has died down it will be interesting to see how many of these have really been sold say in 6 months time and of course to whom.


    Cheers
    jimbo
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  6. #96


    Quote Originally Posted by R0bR View Post
    I came across this poll yesterday on Wired website. When I first went to the site there were approx. 9000 votes and the iPhone 5 had a commanding lead followed by the Galaxy S3 then the Nokia 920. Since then the Nokia 920 has been getting the most votes and now has a commanding lead after about 25,000 votes. As for the article itself it is typically biased, this one stating that spec wise these phones are pretty much the same yet the 920 surpasses the others in tech. Regardless of the biased articles that are being published, just reading the comments in them you can see that the 920 is a game changer. The S3 has already sold over 20 Million units, if the 920 is that much more interesting to people than the S3 as the poll indicates we should start to see Windows Phone taking some market share.

    Apple iPhone 5 Specs Versus the Competition's: Which Will You Buy? | Gadget Lab | Wired.com
    Agree. All in all, now that MS has developed and refining their "Trifecta" via their "Modern" UI (mimmicking iMe & Co.) there market share should increase dramatically.
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  7. #97


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    I see your response, and I raise you mine. Nokia Lumia 920 Hands On: You Really Want This Thing&mdash;But Enough to Switch?

    The iPhone 5 forecast: a predictable 73 degrees and sunny | The Verge

    Nokia Lumia 920 Release Date: 6 Reasons Why Many Will Buy Lumia 920 vs iPhone 5 : Books & Review

    See, I'll take innovative hardware and exceptional software over hype and an extra row of icons any day.
    Reactions to the iPhone 5 vs Nokia Lumia 920 | WMPoweruser

    And this is also very true, many of the people buying the iphone are most likely iphone 4 users coming out of contract. The only real argument to make is if apple can get into untapped areas of the market, both in the US and abroad. The main platform that will be cannibalized will be android. Seeing how android carries high end hardware, and Windows Phone carries high end hardware and many android users are using and older version of it, the switch to it isn't too steep. Plus, some phones have better strides in their hardware.
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  8. #98


    I'll get the Nokia Lumia 920 on November 1st when my 2yr AT&T contract is up and I'll take my iPhone 3GS to the pistol range and put 3 .45ACP holes in it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by azasadny View Post
    I'll get the Nokia Lumia 920 on November 1st when my 2yr AT&T contract is up and I'll take my iPhone 3GS to the pistol range and put 3 .45ACP holes in it!
    Please take pictures!


    I've been doing some math and I found that if I buy an unlocked Lumia 920, I could possibly use it on a prepaid service like Virgin Mobile. Even after paying att's ETF fee, and buying a new phone at full price, and for two years on the prepaid service, I'd still be about a good thousand dollars under than two year's of ATT.

    Believe you me, this is tempting.
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  10. #100


    Quote Originally Posted by azasadny View Post
    I'll get the Nokia Lumia 920 on November 1st when my 2yr AT&T contract is up and I'll take my iPhone 3GS to the pistol range and put 3 .45ACP holes in it!
    Lol and 1/2!!
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