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If MS did this, you'd be furious

  1. #11


    Quote Originally Posted by YoloWaffle View Post
    Yes they are both Corporations, but Apple is restrictive to maximize profit.
    I do not think that is at all why they are restrictive. They are restrictive to promote a certain consistent computing experience.

    Quote Originally Posted by YoloWaffle View Post
    Gates is a well known Humanitarian so I have much more respect for him than Steve Jobs. Jobs was apparently a nasty person.
    I didn't know either of them personally, but Bill Gates does give a ton of time and money to charities. Steve Jobs, from what I have read, was rather ambitious and expected a lot of out people. He got the shaft numerous times in his career, so that might have fueled his fire just a bit.

    Quote Originally Posted by YoloWaffle View Post
    Of course, these are opinions as there is little evidence to prove it, but just how Apple's business model is to maximize profit and poor customer service I believe it.
    I thought many loved Apple due to really good customer service.


    I honestly just don't like Apple. I've had bad experiences with them.

    Quote Originally Posted by YoloWaffle View Post
    My Girlfriends MBP crashed and had to replace the HDD. She lost all of her apps that were preloaded on the Operating System, such as iPhoto, the word processor, etc. They told me I had to re-buy all the apps and that I should have backed up my configuration.
    Depending upon the age of the MBP, the experience might have been different. These apps used to be part of the iLife suite and are pre-installed and used to come with the install media with the MBP. With newer MBP's, they are preinstalled, but you don't get media anymore. Instead, you get them through the App Store, but you have to go through the "purchased" link once you are logged in to see the apps you already own. You should have been able to reinstall them from there. From lots of reading, this is a common issue and people often cannot find the software again.

    I use Windows, OSX and Linux. They all have their pluses and their minuses. Sorry to hear your experience with Apple wasn't all that great.

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  2. #12


    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    With the amount of scamming etc going on I think ANY user of ANY OS would be advised to install any security upgrades recommended by the manufacturer of the OS.
    Of course, I do install all of the updates. I do it for Windows, I do it for Linux.

    The point that I was trying to make was that I think many Windows enthusiasts would have been furious if they turned on their computer to find that it just went ahead and installed an update without giving them any choice. Just look at the number of people who don't think they are necessary and elect to NOT install them as they feel they do nothing but slow down their computer. Heck, some even try to research and determine if each and every update is applicable to them. (Ain't nobody got time for that..is what I always think).

    I was fine with the automatic update. I'm fine with Windows doing Windows update automatically. But I think that some would have cried FOWL extremely loudly if this had happened to them.
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  3. #13


    There were cases when Win8 got updated to 8.1 without asking any permission.
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    That's why there is a option to have windows tell you theres a update before you install it. a lot of programs these days automatically ask you if you wanna do this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    There were cases when Win8 got updated to 8.1 without asking any permission.
    Honestly I don't believe it. People install things without thinking (yeah, whatever, click YES) and then it does something they didn't expect (I never asked for that man). If you can upgrade from 8 to 8.1 without agreeing to​ I'll eat your hat.

    However if you are saying you can upgrade from 8 to 8.1 by mistake by clicking randomly with no thought to the consequences then yes, probably.
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  6. #16


    Quote Originally Posted by adamf View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    There were cases when Win8 got updated to 8.1 without asking any permission.
    Honestly I don't believe it. People install things without thinking (yeah, whatever, click YES) and then it does something they didn't expect (I never asked for that man). If you can upgrade from 8 to 8.1 without agreeing to​ I'll eat your hat.

    However if you are saying you can upgrade from 8 to 8.1 by mistake by clicking randomly with no thought to the consequences then yes, probably.
    Difficult to believe for me too but there are some claims on our forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    Difficult to believe for me too but there are some claims on our forum.
    Then they are forgetful or lying. I have a Macbook and got the un-requested security fix. Do I care? No. Presumably Apple thought about it more than I care to.

    I install Windows updates without reading the release notes (sorry) and my Logitec internet radio updated it's firmware last month without any discussion at all.

    Sure you can try to check everything (build you own Linux for example) but you'd never have time to leave your house if you didn't assume some people are not actually out to get you and have other fish to fry.
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  8. #18


    Quote Originally Posted by adamf View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    Difficult to believe for me too but there are some claims on our forum.
    Then they are forgetful or lying. I have a Macbook and got the un-requested security fix. Do I care? No. Presumably Apple thought about it more than I care to.

    I install Windows updates without reading the release notes (sorry) and my Logitec internet radio updated it's firmware last month without any discussion at all.

    Sure you can try to check everything (build you own Linux for example) but you'd never have time to leave your house if you didn't assume some people are not actually out to get you and have other fish to fry.
    I like to (and have time) to review all the optional updates, few times there were unsuitable drivers in them and other ones plumb not needed.
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