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The Pedant or "English as she is Spoke" and correcting it

  1. #31


    A Finnish ex-pat in Leipzig, Germany
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    Quote Originally Posted by davehc View Post
    (Don't examine my posts to closely !!!)
    Shouldn't it be too closely...

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  2. #32


    Lol!
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  3. #33


    Spare a thought for my dilemma .. I live in a country with 11 official languages ..

    Languages of South Africa - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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  4. #34


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    Quote Originally Posted by Atomcrusher View Post
    Spare a thought for my dilemma .. I live in a country with 11 official languages ..
    And do any insist how ellipses are written... That will be... not ..
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  5. #35


    As a stranger in a foreign land (Denmark) I would like to add one further comment.
    English is, without doubt, widely spoken over the whole globe. Even quite uneducated people can make themselves understood in the language. It can be abused, misused in the widest sense, and still, up to a point, be fully understood. This is the beauty of it.

    Danish (Kadi may understand what I am saying), is a very pure and precise language. Whilst it has two or three dialects in Denmark, the pronunciation and grammar is constant. A badly pronounced word or two, or a badly constructed sentence, can often lead to a total misunderstanding. This is not a common experience when having a conversation in English, around the world.

    With the greatest respect for the OP. Pedants can be irritating and even boring, in those foreign environments, where the second language, or even the primary language, is English, .
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  6. #36


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    boring pedants


    Quote Originally Posted by davehc View Post
    As a stranger in a foreign land (Denmark) I would like to add one further comment.
    English is, without doubt, widely spoken over the whole globe. Even quite uneducated people can make themselves understood in the language. It can be abused, misused in the widest sense, and still, up to a point, be fully understood. This is the beauty of it.

    Danish (Kadi may understand what I am saying), is a very pure and precise language. Whilst it has two or three dialects in Denmark, the pronunciation and grammar is constant. A badly pronounced word or two, or a badly constructed sentence, can often lead to a total misunderstanding. This is not a common experience when having a conversation in English, around the world.

    With the greatest respect for the OP. Pedants can be irritating and even boring, in those foreign environments, where the second language, or even the primary language, is English, .
    But that's the whole point of the thread, really.

    My position is that being pedantic about one's own posts is dependent largely on one's early education and particularly the importance given by one's family in the home.My Mum was"keeper of the Civilising Influence" on the home front in our house. She also had two simple instruction sets in her battle to make acceptable members of Society out of her two male offspring. These were "Full speed ahead, Damn the torpedoes" and "Expect no quarter"

    The two TOTALLY, NEVER to be broken Laws which she enforced with an iron hand both in private AND public were that "Close Enough is too far away" and "One NEVER corrected other people's misuse of English".

    These
    were Laws that you Ate and slept with, otherwise you may end up having to cook your own food and wash your own bedlinen.

    Merlin
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  7. #37


    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Hi there

    Since most of Modern English seems to be based on Will Shakespeare - who actually Didn't write "Shakespeare" who is to say what English should be -- the base English was based on an erroneous authorship.

    There WAS a will shakepeare who lived in Stratford upon Avon - but he wasn't an author. Stratford was at that time (like most urban areas in England) an impoverished Hell Hole - there's no way a poor farmer with barely a proper education could have in the late 1500's / early 1600's in England achieved writing the amount of literature he is alleged to have written - and found backers and money to stage this stuff in Far away London.

    The works were probably written by one of the Aristrocracy / Earls at the time . There is no doubt that the author of the works was the SAME individual - but done by a person of whom we have ZERO records of his schooling, absolutely NOTHING written in his own handwriting and zero logistics records of putting on these shows -- OK 1580's England didn't have the best record keeping but people WERE paid and that sort of expense would have merited some sort of pecuniary records being available. With no documentary evidence whatsoever that the Stratford Will Shakespeare ever wrote a single thing makes for fairly convincing evidence that the author was indeed someone else - but 4 centuries of academia aren't going to admit they've been "conned" - are they. !!!

    I'm afraid most of the UK's English Literature classes is based on a HUGE LIE !!

    The Shakespearean Authorship Trust, who really wrote Shakespeare's plays?

    (Don't read too much --it's really addictive following that subject though !!!!).

    Perhaps another thread -- Who really wrote Shakespeares plays !!!!.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  8. #38


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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Hi there


    Perhaps another thread -- Who really wrote Shakespeares plays !!!!.

    Cheers
    jimbo

    No sooner said than done, Jimbo.

    Merlin
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  9. #39


    Like most schoolchildren at the time I went to school, I was forced, on the curriculum, to read and study Shakespeare. Even up to the age of 17, I could not comprehend many of the constructed sentences in his (?) works. That remains to this day. I saw no point then, and I see no point now, in making it a compulsory part of education. I have yet to encounter anyone who actually talks in that manner.
    I did, in my early years, pick up a book, "Lambs Tales from Shakespeare",. This was great, and allowed me to read some fine plots, in more contemporary English.

    Great fun joining in this thread. Thank you, Merlin, but I think I'll get back to the computer stuff now.
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  10. #40


    Quote Originally Posted by davehc View Post
    Like most schoolchildren at the time I went to school, I was forced, on the curriculum, to read and study Shakespeare. Even up to the age of 17, I could not comprehend many of the constructed sentences in his (?) works. That remains to this day. I saw no point then, and I see no point now, in making it a compulsory part of education. I have yet to encounter anyone who actually talks in that manner.
    I did, in my early years, pick up a book, "Lambs Tales from Shakespeare",. This was great, and allowed me to read some fine plots, in more contemporary English.

    Great fun joining in this thread. Thank you, Merlin, but I think I'll get back to the computer stuff now.
    Hwyl fawr am nawr
    Couldn't agree more,,,Having to study that useless literature crap was a PITA ( would have much rather focused on Science/Maths geeky stuff)

    I just hope readers of my posts focus more on what I'm trying to convey rather than how it's being presented. I do tend to edit grammar stuff quite often, but sometimes I think, stuff it,,, it makes sense as is,,, not here to impress with an extensive vocabulary or what-not,
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