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Kids can't use computers... & why it should worry you

  1. #11


    England, Northamptonshire
    Posts : 536
    Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit ; Windows Server 2012 R2 Standard


    In schools we exclude kids for attempting to hack our systems. Is that right?
    So true... In secondary school I got detention for being able to access the BIOS (didn't have a password), change the boot priority and then boot into Linux. Once in there I was amazed to see that I could access the public storage on the network with zero authentication because the Network manager decided to share the drive to 'Everyone' including anonymous users. Why should I get a detention for finding a security vulnerability at my school? I just don't understand it but that may be because I was on the receiving end.

    I like to think I'm good with computers and know more than your office applications but then again I didn't learn my skills in school... Curiosity got the best of me and I taught myself.

    Josh

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  2. #12


    These days computers are everywhere. It seems like the new generations of children born are picking up things quicker then us older generation folks are. When I was a kid computers were just starting come out.
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  3. #13


    127.0.0.1
    Posts : 144
    Windows 8.1 Pro x64


    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowjk View Post
    In schools we exclude kids for attempting to hack our systems. Is that right?
    So true... In secondary school I got detention for being able to access the BIOS (didn't have a password), change the boot priority and then boot into Linux. Once in there I was amazed to see that I could access the public storage on the network with zero authentication because the Network manager decided to share the drive to 'Everyone' including anonymous users. Why should I get a detention for finding a security vulnerability at my school? I just don't understand it but that may be because I was on the receiving end.

    I like to think I'm good with computers and know more than your office applications but then again I didn't learn my skills in school... Curiosity got the best of me and I taught myself.

    Josh
    Same here. Only thing I did learn in school computer wise is how to configure Cisco IOS switched and routers
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  4. #14


    Cross Plains
    Posts : 255
    Windows 10 Pro


    I see it both ways. Not many people knowing how to use and fix computers correctly is job security for us that are in the field. It gives us our jobs. If everyone knew how to do it properly, there would be no use for us. However, I would like to see the common user learn how to fix and troubleshoot some of the more simple problems that are a lot of the time the problem. That way we could spend our time on the bigger issues instead of just wasting our time flipping switches and turning computers on so people can use them.
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  5. #15


    Posts : 11
    Windows 8.1 64 bit

    True, but false


    It is true that most kids can't even get anywhere on a computer other than their browser, but that doesn't mean that all kids are like that. I am 11 and I know how to build PCs, do basic/easy coding, and navigate pretty much any OS (including DOS and Arch Linux), heck the teachers that know me call me instead of the IT guy! But then again I might just be special!
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  6. #16


    I don't know where you have been but computers are now pretty much the way of life.
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  7. #17


    Posts : 168
    Windows 8.1 Pro x64


    Yeah, I think ultimately it will all be about a matter of degree. I'm a little bit more interested in computers than cars, so yeah, I assemble my own desktop rigs and usually troubleshoot my own issues. But with cars, well, I took basic auto mechanics in high school, and I have on the rare occasion fixed minor problems with my vehicle. But I still rely on my local mechanic to fix my major issues. You can only spread yourself so thin. If arithmetic, reading, writing, and subjects like that are always going to be considered essential things to know in order for a society to function, then, sure, one could argue that you should probably add basic computer science to that list. But then the average person reaches a point where they decide that they're content just operating the computer as a user and they leave the advanced stuff to the experts, much like many people drive their car, and maybe put in windshield wiper fluid, but can't fix that knock in their engine because it's just out of their grasp. I guess there's a gray area, because I can see the point of some of the previous comments posted in this thread: Is it asking too much for the average person to know how to turn on their WiFi? Should everyone know what a driver is, where to get it, and how to install it? Surely, we can avoid some of the endlessly repeating headaches that the friendly neighborhood or family tech runs into if more people took the initiative to learn just a little bit more.

    I work in a community college, so on average I don't run into too many cases where people are atrociously ignorant in basic computer usage, because in general these are smart, educated people. But then, not too long ago we were told that a staff member or two fell victim to a phishing scheme, and since then they have instituted training on how to avoid that. It's the bell curve ... abilities and skill varies from person to person.
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