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Pokkii and start 8 so far 8m downloads

  1. #11


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    Don't forget the more than 10 million downloads of "Classic Shell".
    I downloaded a copy, and have installed now on several computers.

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  2. #12


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    W8.1up1 Pro x64 w/media center


    I kinda like this one, Start Menu X I got the Pro version on a good discount, sometimes you can find it free.

    tried the others too, IObits Start Menu 8 is also OK for free

    Not sure how this WBlue will effect these people that develop these, but if the start menu isn't as good on it I assume I'll just stick with what I'm using.
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  3. #13


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    Tihiy says he has had over 1m downloads of startisback. That is the paid version. He has a free version as well. He didn't say how many of the free version. He probably doesn't care about the free one now.

    At $3.99 a pop - that is amazing. Sounds like he has made more money in the last few months than he ever dreamed of.

    Way to go MS.

    I don't have any figures for the other 30 or so start menus.

    You might conclude there is teeny bit of demand for these things
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  4. #14


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    Win 8, (VM win7, XP, Vista)


    The figures being thrown around just are not realistic. The reason being if a person buys a Start Menu application then that person could possibly be installing it on more than one computer. If this is happening then there is a possibility that the eight million number could be even twice that maybe more.

    There is no way to really know how many computers are running on Windows 8 with a third party Start Menu.

    In all reality no knows how many people are using a third party Start Menu. All is known is around eight million downloads have taken place.
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    All is known is around eight million downloads have taken place.
    Of those two ( there are about 30 others as well ).

    Yes that is correct.

    We don't know how many are in daily use.

    MS have probably got a pretty good idea how many.

    They are not likely to tell us, for obvious reasons.
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  6. #16


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    It doesn't matter how you twist it, 8 million or so is still nearly 10% of total sales (even if it were actual sales to consumers), that's a statistically significant figure.
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  7. #17


    USA, Idaho
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    It doesn't matter how you twist it, 8 million or so is still nearly 10% of total sales (even if it were actual sales to consumers), that's a statistically significant figure.
    No matter how you twist it you still cannot prove that nearly 10% of total sales of Windows 8 have third party Start Menus installed.
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  8. #18


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    No I can't prove it.

    I can't prove the earth is not flat either.



    I will give you a hint.

    I know only 3 people who have had win 8 machines. They all loathed it.

    Two of them were completely unaware that there is such a thing as a start menu replacement.
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  9. #19


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    It doesn't matter how you twist it, 8 million or so is still nearly 10% of total sales (even if it were actual sales to consumers), that's a statistically significant figure.
    No matter how you twist it you still cannot prove that nearly 10% of total sales of Windows 8 have third party Start Menus installed.
    10%...??? Closer to 25% minimum I would say. The 8 million only counts start8 and pokki. Add in classic shell's 10 million downloads, then factor in all the others, and there's dozens, and you get a much more realistic number.....
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  10. #20


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rickkins View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    It doesn't matter how you twist it, 8 million or so is still nearly 10% of total sales (even if it were actual sales to consumers), that's a statistically significant figure.
    No matter how you twist it you still cannot prove that nearly 10% of total sales of Windows 8 have third party Start Menus installed.
    10%...??? Closer to 25% minimum I would say. The 8 million only counts start8 and pokki. Add in classic shell's 10 million downloads, then factor in all the others, and there's dozens, and you get a much more realistic number.....
    I downloaded Bluestacks 4 times.

    Twice for my desktop. Twice for my Surface. Both machines got deleted after finding how crappy it worked the first time. I re-downloaded it on the desktop after it came out of beta. On Surface, I also re-downloaded after they released the Surface optimized version. Doesn't mean it's being used on 4 machines. I downloaded it only for Instagram and that's it.

    So, 10 million downloads for a buggy working program like Bluestacks to use something I hardly want or need to use, in relation to about 10 million for a silly start button, doesn't really mean much either. People don't really need or want something after a download. I could do without Bluestacks. I absolutely do not need or want the start button back. Especially on my Surface.
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