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  1. #31


    Well, after a fair amount of time, I can honestly say the surface is a very nicely built device, its plenty powerful and looks great. However, as expected, being mostly a touch device has left me overall disappointed. Had this been a personal purchase, it would have been complete buyers remorse at this point. Having a full fledged computer in this small of a package is just hard to work with. I'm not recommending this unless somebody absolutely needs ultra mobility. And even then , a dell XPS 12 deserves a real look.

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  2. #32


    I sent a message to a friend of mine who has a personal surface pro, asking him for his opinion on the device. He is a software architect at a software company that I used to work for. He has had a windows 7 phone and has really liked it. I am looking forward to getting his opinion on this device, I'll let you all know what he thinks about his.
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  3. #33


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    The Surface cannot find a domain controller, because the wireless network is not yet operational because it's set per user, AFTER the user logs on.
    Probably this has something to do with the whole increased-security approach... locked UEFI, reduced user permissions and some other stuff.
    No, it is just how domains work. Has always been this way. Traditional machines are usually just hardwired to the LAN so they have this connectivity. On older OSs you could actually engage dual up networking before login to address this very situation.

    The chromebook would have the very same issue, except it has a configurable network option prior to login. So, you can connect to network, then logon with your Gmail account.

    As far as I have been able to determine, there is no similar option on the surface. It's the same issue you have if you have a remote employee, give them a machine on the domain and don't log them in first before you send out the machine. When they get it, they won't be able to log in if it cannot find a domain controller.
    I was reading tonight about RT and came across this. You probably know this stuff already since you're a pro, but just in case.

    Windows RT - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Device management

    Windows RT does not support connecting to a domain for network logins, nor does it support using Group Policy for device management like normal versions of Windows 8. However, Exchange ActiveSync, the Windows Intune service, or System Center Configuration Manager 2012 SP1 can be used to provide some control over Windows RT devices in enterprise environments, such as the ability to apply security policies and provide a portal which can be used to obtain line-of-business apps.
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  4. #34


    biggest complaint overall. all too often, the onscreen keyboard pops up and covers the input field that i am typing in. thus, i cannot see what i am doing.

    had to switch to google chrome canary to get scrolling to work. (versus regular chrome). i have all of my bookmarks in chrome , so i am lost in IE. had to disable high dpi rendering in order to get fonts to not be blurry and i have zoomed to 125%. web pages look good, but menus are tiny and my bookmark bar is a bit hard to read.

    unit gets confused sometimes when adding and removing the type cover keyboard. when it goes on fritz, its when keyboard not attached and it wont bring up onscreen keyboard. reboots don't fix it. i have to reattach keyboard, type, and then remove it.

    other things are ok. got my cisco vpn working and that is really nice for connecting to the office.
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  5. #35


    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    biggest complaint overall. all too often, the onscreen keyboard pops up and covers the input field that i am typing in. thus, i cannot see what i am doing.

    had to switch to google chrome canary to get scrolling to work. (versus regular chrome). i have all of my bookmarks in chrome , so i am lost in IE. had to disable high dpi rendering in order to get fonts to not be blurry and i have zoomed to 125%. web pages look good, but menus are tiny and my bookmark bar is a bit hard to read.

    unit gets confused sometimes when adding and removing the type cover keyboard. when it goes on fritz, its when keyboard not attached and it wont bring up onscreen keyboard. reboots don't fix it. i have to reattach keyboard, type, and then remove it.

    other things are ok. got my cisco vpn working and that is really nice for connecting to the office.
    That must be a firmware bug/issue.
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  6. #36


    Well, applied the latest firmware update from Microsoft today, which according to Redmond is supposed to;

    Fixes to Wi-Fi reliability allowing for better roaming and improvements to "Limited" connectivity scenarios.
    Windows To Go feature is enabled.
    Improved onscreen keyboard detection synchronization when going in and out of sleep.
    Will report back whether I see wifi improvements.
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  7. #37


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    Hey Patrick,

    How are you liking it so far after using it for a bit?
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  8. #38


    I've had it for 3 weeks now. I've used it regularly at the office, on the go and at home.

    What's really nice about it, is the fact that whatever works on my Windows 8 laptop will work on the Surface Pro. I can run the Cisco VPN client, I can run a real IE browser for those websites that require it (Microsoft Dynamics..I'm looking at you). And there is no learning curve (if you are used to Windows 8). Everything is consistent and in 1 place...unlike Android where things are different depending upon which mfg you are using.

    What I don't particularly like about it
    • The stylus needs a secure location for storage. The magnetic thing isn't very strong, and that's also the same place you have to charge the Surface, so you have to remove the stylus when charging.
    • Battery life isn't great
    • Type Cover keyboard sometimes quits working or doesn't attach well, thus causing keyboard to not register. Often you have to move it around, reclick it back in, etc.
    • Overall inconsistencies in Windows 8 touch interface. For example, right click on classic desktop is accomplished by pressing and holding an icon. However, on Start Screen, pressing and holding a tile doesn't right click on it. I can right click on it with the pen, but not with my fingers.


    As a person who doesn't love tablets, and isn't enamored with touchscreens in general, I have to say that the Surface Pro doesn't do anything to help or hinder that opinion. Typing onscreen is annoying at best, and often times the keyboard covers up way too much of the screen. Typing on the keyboard is far better, but unfortunately requires a flat surface to work well..so it's hard to use sitting in a chair or sitting in bed.

    I think it's a good device for a certain type of person. The mobile professional that needs Windows to complete their tasks. In many cases, I think I would be much happier with a touchscreen ultrabook.
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  9. #39


    Well, I have officially given up the Surface Pro at work. I found it wasn't really doing anything for me and somebody else had a need for more portability, so I elected to give her that one rather than have her buy another one.
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  10. #40


    Geez. How come forum members didn't get first dibs at it?

    Thanks for your input and all the info you gave us, Patrick.
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