The Surface Pro arrived

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Now, if I complain, it's from first hand experience.

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Type cover and the Surface Pro
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Microsoft attempting to coil it's power cords nicely like Apple (Apple wins this one, easily)

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Disc space consumed;

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And the WEI (because we are nerds);
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I would be tempted, but I have to have something with a larger screen.
 

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I Like it for sure. Nice to see some screenshots. :)

You're pretty mobile with one of those but unfortunately for me, the budget doesn't permit it for now... with 3 laptops standing by. :D
 

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Initial opinions.

  1. The screen is absolutely gorgeous (at 1920x1080), but you better have great version if you plan to use the Classic Desktop as things are far, far, far too small. That's with the DPI at 150% (default). I RDP'd into a domain controller and work and could barely make out the active directory users and computers snap in at this resolution.
  2. Wi-Fi signal strength leaves a lot to be desired. As long as I am close to the access point, it's been alright. But when I get a bit away, it drops easily. But our laptops, smartphones and other tablet devices don't seem to have this issue.
  3. It does NOT seem to support gestures on the type cover keyboard touchpad. And the touchpad is very small top to bottom, so not much room to scroll our pinch to zoom anyway.
  4. the F1, F2 and F3 buttons require you to press Fn-F# in order to use. This is absolutely backwards.
  5. It does have a usb charging port on the power supply. That's nice for charging phones and other devices.

So, that's all for the time being with the short amount of time I have had to spend with it.
 

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i will buy it if it ever goes on sale for $400 or I win it :)
 

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It's completely and totally useless on my lap sitting in a chair with the touch cover. I often sit in a recliner at home, with the legs kicked out and the laptop sitting on my lap and against my legs. More or less holding my laptop between my rib cage and my legs to balance it. Tried that tonight with the Surface Pro and it was wobbling and flopping all over the place.

So, I've put the Surface away and I'm back on the Chromebook. It's much better for surfing like this on the web for me.
 

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Yes, some reviewers pointed out that as a massive no no for them. Surface Pro seems only intended for use on a table/desk or similar.
 

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I'd kill out the recovery partition and move it to a flash drive to recovery some space on the SSD.

DPI set to more than 100%?

Have you typed with the touch keyboard yet? I doubt you can do a laptop propping of the Pro like that, I would imagine it would be preferable to hold it with one hand or something or propped up with no type cover on. But you'd need to type with the touch keyboard. I like the touch keyboard on Windows 8, it works better than the ipad or android for sure, but I don't know about a 10.6 inch screen though.

How's the stylus like?

The Fn and Fx key combo isn't really new, I've seen it done with certain OEM laptops before. I would think that's a no biggie.

I think the Pro has wifi issues as a reported glitch. Apparently Microsoft is working on a fix, which I don't get why that is though. I don't understand how companies release a new product and have issues found with them. Wouldn't you think they vigorously tested their product BEFORE releasing it?

Please say you've at least pinned SOME things to Start? :)

I think I must have great vision as I recently used a Dell XPS AIO with like the 2560 by whatever resolution it is, it's above 1080p but I'm lazy right now and don't want to figure it out. Changing the DPI to 150% proved to be real effective on the Desktop, made things MUCH easier to touch and view.

Strange how the gestures aren't supported with the touchpad. You're doing them correctly I'm assuming? Odd, maybe Microsoft REALLY wants you to touch Windows 8.

That's a sexy box.
 

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That reversed Fn - F1 F2 F3... is also what I have on my Win8 laptop. Pretty messy when you need boot devices list or booting with advanced options.

The (primary) usage on a desk is not really what a tablet is supposed to do and in that case I'll pass because as I said, laptops are on the desk.

HD screen and the overall Pro specs are really nice though. 150% dpi: it makes the image really sharp but it fills some decent screen for UI again and practically makes it comparable with 1366x768 without the low-res blurriness. But at that size you should be able to use the touch functionality better (I'm sure that was the reason for the high dpi settings).
 

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That reversed Fn - F1 F2 F3... is also what I have on my Win8 laptop. Pretty messy when you need boot devices list or booting with advanced options.

The (primary) usage on a desk is not really what a tablet is supposed to do and in that case I'll pass because as I said, laptops are on the desk.

HD screen and the overall Pro specs are really nice though. 150% dpi: it makes the image really sharp but it fills some decent screen for UI again and practically makes it comparable with 1366x768 without the low-res blurriness. But at that size you should be able to use the touch functionality better (I'm sure that was the reason for the high dpi settings).

At least my laptop (which is Fn-F1 to press F1) have the switch in the BIOS. Now i can press Fn-F10 to Volume Up.
 

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That reversed Fn - F1 F2 F3... is also what I have on my Win8 laptop. Pretty messy when you need boot devices list or booting with advanced options.

The (primary) usage on a desk is not really what a tablet is supposed to do and in that case I'll pass because as I said, laptops are on the desk.

HD screen and the overall Pro specs are really nice though. 150% dpi: it makes the image really sharp but it fills some decent screen for UI again and practically makes it comparable with 1366x768 without the low-res blurriness. But at that size you should be able to use the touch functionality better (I'm sure that was the reason for the high dpi settings).

At least my laptop (which is Fn-F1 to press F1) have the switch in the BIOS. Now i can press Fn-F10 to Volume Up.

Interesting.
Is that an HP as well? Hmmm... wonder what option in the BIOS. :think:
 

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That reversed Fn - F1 F2 F3... is also what I have on my Win8 laptop. Pretty messy when you need boot devices list or booting with advanced options.

The (primary) usage on a desk is not really what a tablet is supposed to do and in that case I'll pass because as I said, laptops are on the desk.

HD screen and the overall Pro specs are really nice though. 150% dpi: it makes the image really sharp but it fills some decent screen for UI again and practically makes it comparable with 1366x768 without the low-res blurriness. But at that size you should be able to use the touch functionality better (I'm sure that was the reason for the high dpi settings).

At least my laptop (which is Fn-F1 to press F1) have the switch in the BIOS. Now i can press Fn-F10 to Volume Up.

Interesting.
Is that an HP as well? Hmmm... wonder what option in the BIOS. :think:

Yes it is a HP.
The option is called Action Keys Mode, located in System Configuration tab on InsydeH2O BIOS.
 

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I'd kill out the recovery partition and move it to a flash drive to recovery some space on the SSD.
The recovery partition is only 8GB and the Surface Pro is clean of malware, so I could see restoring this thing to factory settings. So, I will leave that alone, at least for the time being.

DPI set to more than 100%?
Out of the box, it's set at 150%. And the IE browser is set to zoom to 150% right out of the box.

Have you typed with the touch keyboard yet? I doubt you can do a laptop propping of the Pro like that, I would imagine it would be preferable to hold it with one hand or something or propped up with no type cover on. But you'd need to type with the touch keyboard. I like the touch keyboard on Windows 8, it works better than the ipad or android for sure, but I don't know about a 10.6 inch screen though.
The touch keyboard works pretty much the same as any tablet device. You have to 2 finger type, you cannot keep your hands resting on the keys and use it like a real keyboard. At least, I don't seem to be able to.

I'm using the Surface now for this post, but using the Type cover keyboard.

How's the stylus like?
Well, first...it magnetically attaches to the Surface Pro, where the power adapter goes. It doesn't have any other storage location as far as I can tell. So, my gut tells me it's going to get lost rather quickly since you have to detach it to recharge the Surface. And it's $30 accessory if you need to replace it. It works, and it recognizes my handwriting, but it's a wee bit slow doing it. I find I am just sitting there waiting for it. It gets most words right, but does mangle some. It's like using Swype on an Android.

One thing I find odd with the pen is that you cannot scroll websites and such using it as the touch device. You have to use the slider bars on the sides of the browser. Just feels odd to have to switch between finger tips and the pen in order to accomplish some tasks.

The Fn and Fx key combo isn't really new, I've seen it done with certain OEM laptops before. I would think that's a no biggie.
Well, I am sure that I would get used to it. But on my desktops and laptops, I hit F3 for the search in my browser and it's second nature. Oh well, not the end of the world.


I think the Pro has wifi issues as a reported glitch. Apparently Microsoft is working on a fix, which I don't get why that is though. I don't understand how companies release a new product and have issues found with them. Wouldn't you think they vigorously tested their product BEFORE releasing it?
I'm only like 20 feet from the AP right now, and I'm only getting 1/2 signal. My laptop and phone are both significantly stronger. Hopefully they get this resolved.

Please say you've at least pinned SOME things to Start? :)
Well, obviously apps getting installed create tiles. I've deleted far more than I have added myself. On the Surface,I will use the Start Screen a whole lot more than my laptop. On the laptop, I pretty much don't even see the Start Screen.

I think I must have great vision as I recently used a Dell XPS AIO with like the 2560 by whatever resolution it is, it's above 1080p but I'm lazy right now and don't want to figure it out. Changing the DPI to 150% proved to be real effective on the Desktop, made things MUCH easier to touch and view.
Some things look great, other things do not. It's real hit or miss. Like I said above, 150% DPI is default on this device. Thus far the only thing that has looked really bad was RDP. Things were just way too small to really use. Most other things like Control Panel and Windows menus are fine enough.

Strange how the gestures aren't supported with the touchpad. You're doing them correctly I'm assuming? Odd, maybe Microsoft REALLY wants you to touch Windows 8.
Well, I can do the gestures just fine on my Dell laptop with Windows 8...so I think I have a good handle on how to do them. I'll have to scour the web and see if there is a driver or something for the type cover to enable gesture support. But I am sure it wasn't a concern since this is a touchscreen device and why not just touch the screen rather than use gestures on the touchpad to simulate it.
 

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I'd kill out the recovery partition and move it to a flash drive to recovery some space on the SSD.
The recovery partition is only 8GB and the Surface Pro is clean of malware, so I could see restoring this thing to factory settings. So, I will leave that alone, at least for the time being.

DPI set to more than 100%?
Out of the box, it's set at 150%. And the IE browser is set to zoom to 150% right out of the box.


The touch keyboard works pretty much the same as any tablet device. You have to 2 finger type, you cannot keep your hands resting on the keys and use it like a real keyboard. At least, I don't seem to be able to.

I'm using the Surface now for this post, but using the Type cover keyboard.


Well, first...it magnetically attaches to the Surface Pro, where the power adapter goes. It doesn't have any other storage location as far as I can tell. So, my gut tells me it's going to get lost rather quickly since you have to detach it to recharge the Surface. And it's $30 accessory if you need to replace it. It works, and it recognizes my handwriting, but it's a wee bit slow doing it. I find I am just sitting there waiting for it. It gets most words right, but does mangle some. It's like using Swype on an Android.

One thing I find odd with the pen is that you cannot scroll websites and such using it as the touch device. You have to use the slider bars on the sides of the browser. Just feels odd to have to switch between finger tips and the pen in order to accomplish some tasks.


Well, I am sure that I would get used to it. But on my desktops and laptops, I hit F3 for the search in my browser and it's second nature. Oh well, not the end of the world.



I'm only like 20 feet from the AP right now, and I'm only getting 1/2 signal. My laptop and phone are both significantly stronger. Hopefully they get this resolved.


Well, obviously apps getting installed create tiles. I've deleted far more than I have added myself. On the Surface,I will use the Start Screen a whole lot more than my laptop. On the laptop, I pretty much don't even see the Start Screen.

I think I must have great vision as I recently used a Dell XPS AIO with like the 2560 by whatever resolution it is, it's above 1080p but I'm lazy right now and don't want to figure it out. Changing the DPI to 150% proved to be real effective on the Desktop, made things MUCH easier to touch and view.
Some things look great, other things do not. It's real hit or miss. Like I said above, 150% DPI is default on this device. Thus far the only thing that has looked really bad was RDP. Things were just way too small to really use. Most other things like Control Panel and Windows menus are fine enough.

Strange how the gestures aren't supported with the touchpad. You're doing them correctly I'm assuming? Odd, maybe Microsoft REALLY wants you to touch Windows 8.
Well, I can do the gestures just fine on my Dell laptop with Windows 8...so I think I have a good handle on how to do them. I'll have to scour the web and see if there is a driver or something for the type cover to enable gesture support. But I am sure it wasn't a concern since this is a touchscreen device and why not just touch the screen rather than use gestures on the touchpad to simulate it.
Interesting, DPI is set to 150% by default. I would probably had set it to 125 over 150, that would be used on a larger, much higher resolution screen I'd think.

I've used touch typing with Windows 8 and Lenovo Yoga, but I think that was 11.6 inches of screen. I was able to type rather fast, not a two finger type. For me, the keyboard was JUST RIGHT. android's keyboard is not, neither is the ipad. It's too.... constricted I guess.

The handwriting recognition is I think a type of machine learning that has been in Windows for years, it takes some time and use for it to understand YOUR handwriting and adapt to it. But it needs you to write legibly though. Interesting how the stylus doesn't scroll, like it doesn't do ANY scrolling? This seems like a driver update is in the works as Photoshop doesn't really recognize it as pressure sensitive.
 

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Changing to 125% makes it just a bit too small for most to use. It's clear and looks good, but it's just very small and you have to get quite close to read it.

I will get a picture of the onscreen keyboard and my hands in relation to it. It's too small to really "type" on with the 10.6" screen.
 

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    PSU
    Corsair 620HX modular
    Case
    Antec P182
    Cooling
    stock
    Keyboard
    ABS M1 Mechanical
    Mouse
    Logitech G9 Laser Mouse
    Internet Speed
    15/2 cable modem
    Other Info
    Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset.

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 x64
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP Envy DV6 7250
    CPU
    Intel i7-3630QM
    Motherboard
    HP, Intel HM77 Express Chipset
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD4000 + Nvidia Geforce 630M
    Sound Card
    IDT HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6' built-in + Samsung S22D300 + 17.3' LG Phillips
    Screen Resolution
    multiple resolutions
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 250GB + Hitachi HDD 750GB
    PSU
    120W adapter
    Case
    small
    Cooling
    laptop cooling pad
    Keyboard
    Backlit built-in + big one in USB
    Mouse
    SteelSeries Sensei
    Internet Speed
    slow and steady
    Browser
    Chromium, Pale Moon, Firefox Developer Edition
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    That's basically it.

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro x64
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo Y520
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 7300HQ
    Motherboard
    OEM Lenovo
    Memory
    4GB DDR4-2400
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1 (2)
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Seagate 1TB 5400 RPM
    Keyboard
    OEM Lenovo
    Mouse
    Logitech G502 Proteus Core
    Internet Speed
    100 Mbps
    Browser
    Google Chrome
    Other Info
    PC:

    AMD Athlon X4 760K
    8GB DDR3-1866
    AMD Radeon RX 460
    Seagate 500 GB 7200 RPM
Hilarious chain of events today.

I decide that I want to join the Surface Pro to our work domain and logon with my domain account. So, I join the box to the domain. Then I add my domain account to the local admins group on the Surface.

I then reboot the surface, and attempt to logon to the domain. I cannot because the Surface Pro cannot find a domain controller. The Surface cannot find a domain controller, because the wireless network is not yet operational because it's set per user, AFTER the user logs on.

So, from the main screen, I am unable to login because there is no option to connect FIRST to the network and then to logon. This is something that my CHROMEBOOK handled just fine. From the main logon screen, I was able to connect FIRST to the network and then logon with my gmail account.

EPIC FAIL Microsoft.


The solution
Surface Pro Wifi only and domain login

1). Get a USB network dongle and attach to get logged in first time
2) Go into Group Policy, allow device to run apps as ANOTHER user. Login with local account, run something like calculator as your domain account so your credential gets cached. Then, logout and logon with your domain account.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 7
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Self-Built in July 2009
    CPU
    Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS
    Memory
    8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    23" Acer x233H
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
    Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS
    PSU
    Corsair 620HX modular
    Case
    Antec P182
    Cooling
    stock
    Keyboard
    ABS M1 Mechanical
    Mouse
    Logitech G9 Laser Mouse
    Internet Speed
    15/2 cable modem
    Other Info
    Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset.
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