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Five reasons why Windows 8 has failed

  1. #11


    Canon City
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    Windows 8.1 Pro 64 Bit


    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    I think the complaints will be heard when M$ sees their business dwindle. They are making a similar faux pas with Office which is their milk cow - but here it is with the Ts&Cs.

    In Ubuntu it is different. There is not a lot of business attached to it - maybe now when they go mobile. I went to Mint Mate Nadia and like that UI better than the Unity. And my special pet is Zorin.
    I do hope to see them go mobile, the issue I see though is with Windows Phone not keeping up with Android and iphone, manufactures will be hard to put faith into another mobile OS. I only liked Linux Mint with cinnamon but it did not work well with my computer, very glitchy.

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  2. #12


    Germany/Florida
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    Vista and Win7


    Yeah, and then there is Chrome OS now too - another Linux based derivative.
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  3. #13


    Posts : 15
    Windows 8 pro


    I just downgraded back to windows 7... Took me alot of effort but it was worth it. Unless you have a touchscreen tablet windows 8 is a disaster for anyone trying to be productive. I had various issues with running auto cad efficiently. And my workload effectiveness and efficiency at home decreased by as much as the amount of time I spent looking and aearching for features that used to be right in the open and that are hiding in windows 8. The biggest issue I had with autocad is that auto cad is designed to use the center wheel of a mouse to pan around drawings. But on windows 8, it moves your whole screen out and tries to zoom out. It's impossible to function on auto cad with this design. There are various other problems with this software and windows 8.
    My laptop is pretty old from 2010 and I'll have to upgrade to a new work machine in the near future. Every new laptop has windows 8, i can't use it therefor I can't buy a new laptop with windows 8. Microsoft is forcing me to buy a mac.... I do not have any options left. You can't even buy a laptop with windows 7. And if you want windows 7, you have to go through a pain full process of getting downgrade rights.


    Who is making decisions at microsoft?
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  4. #14


    Canon City
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    Windows 8.1 Pro 64 Bit


    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Yeah, and then there is Chrome OS now too - another Linux based derivative.
    I had a chromebook, the first one released in 2011. Wasn't bad but for the web wasn't compatible with a lot of things, one thing that would be nice is if they get Unity Engine support this year, it's a rumor but a hopeful rumor. So let me ask you a question, if Windows 8 sales continue to dwindle and they do not change there path where will users go? Do you think they will go Apple with computers starting at $1200? I know there is a rumor of a Mac for $699, seen this rumor in the past when Apple was working on a netbook that became the ipad. Linux? which has to many flavors for end users to understand and not to mention a whole different look on how things should work. Chromebooks? They are really nice and have a chance but need much more web support. I am just saying I think people will fall for the Windows 8 at the end whether they love it or hate it. I understand all your guys wanting the right to complain and be heard but all I am saying don't we have like 5 threads on this topic already. Not saying your complaining but this community as a whole.
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  5. #15


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    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    That is the question.

    There isn't a viable alternative for most.

    The current reluctance towards MS offering leaves them exposed. They must have considered that. I expect they are gambling no one else will step in .

    Tim could deal a fatal blow if he does deliver the $699 mac whatever.

    It is not impossible the oems could finance a more user friendly Linux desktop thing.

    There are reasons why it is hard for Timmy or the oems to do that. There are big barriers. But the potential rewards are huge.

    It is important to get the message across to MS among others. To just give in would only encourage them.
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  6. #16


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    Windows 8.1 Pro 64 Bit


    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    That is the question.

    There isn't a viable alternative for most.

    The current reluctance towards MS offering leaves them exposed. They must have considered that. I expect they are gambling no one else will step in .

    Tim could deal a fatal blow if he does deliver the $699 mac whatever.

    It is not impossible the oems could finance a more user friendly Linux desktop thing.

    There are reasons why it is hard for Timmy or the oems to do that. There are big barriers. But the potential rewards are huge.

    It is important to get the message across to MS among others. To just give in would only encourage them.
    Here in the U.S. it will be hard, over in Europe it seems like a nice move to Ubuntu is taking place since in the last year both Asus and hp have jumped on the bandwagon of shipping Ubuntu computer over there. Not to mention I believe Dell sell over there (I know they do here), system 76 and there own small companies like system 76. It will be interesting to see what goes on.
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  7. #17


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    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    I am not expecting a huge uptake of Ubuntu as it is. The oem offerings you mention will have a market - but I don't think it will be huge.

    Perhaps if they get a more user friendly version togeteher and ship it on a fair percentage of oem machines - then it could take off.
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  8. #18


    Quote Originally Posted by Inthemix View Post
    I just downgraded back to windows 7... Took me alot of effort but it was worth it. Unless you have a touchscreen tablet windows 8 is a disaster for anyone trying to be productive. I had various issues with running auto cad efficiently. And my workload effectiveness and efficiency at home decreased by as much as the amount of time I spent looking and aearching for features that used to be right in the open and that are hiding in windows 8. The biggest issue I had with autocad is that auto cad is designed to use the center wheel of a mouse to pan around drawings. But on windows 8, it moves your whole screen out and tries to zoom out. It's impossible to function on auto cad with this design. There are various other problems with this software and windows 8.
    My laptop is pretty old from 2010 and I'll have to upgrade to a new work machine in the near future. Every new laptop has windows 8, i can't use it therefor I can't buy a new laptop with windows 8. Microsoft is forcing me to buy a mac.... I do not have any options left. You can't even buy a laptop with windows 7. And if you want windows 7, you have to go through a pain full process of getting downgrade rights.


    Who is making decisions at microsoft?
    Just buy a laptop without a preinstalled OS. It is really that simple.
    My country got TONS of them, marked as DOS.
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  9. #19


    Canon City
    Posts : 249
    Windows 8.1 Pro 64 Bit


    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    I am not expecting a huge uptake of Ubuntu as it is. The oem offerings you mention will have a market - but I don't think it will be huge.

    Perhaps if they get a more user friendly version togeteher and ship it on a fair percentage of oem machines - then it could take off.
    Honestly I don't think they could meake Ubuntu any more user friendly, have you used Ubuntu in the last two year? It would have to literally do things for you to be any easier. All manufactures would have to do is do more advertisement and information about what is compatiable in terms of hardware, ofcourse that also means if manufactures would switch to Ubuntu compatiablity would come with more users.
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  10. #20


    dehradun
    Posts : 16
    window 8 pro (64bit)+ window 7 ultimate (32bits)


    I upgraded to window 8 pro (64 bits) from window 7 ultimate. Window 8 is faster than window 7 .I really like hybrid shut down and hybrid boot ( it takes 10 seconds). There are many new features in window 8 its a nice upgrade from window 7
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