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The great Windows 8 debate

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    The great Windows 8 debate


    You could say is a large debate.

    January 02, 2013
    The great Windows 8 debate

    Love it or hate it, Win8 is here to stay, with or without the Start menu. Will users adopt it -- or grit their teeth and wait for Windows 9?

    By Robert X. Cringely | InfoWorld

    The other day I got a phone call from a friend I'll call Dave (since that's his name). He was sitting in front of his computer pulling out what little hair he has left. The reason: Dave had ignored my sage advice and purchased a new desktop over the holidays running Windows 8. Now he was desperately searching for the Start button.

    "It's right next to the Any key," I told him. Dave, who has been using personal computers for more than 10 years but is determined to remain a novice, did not appreciate my sense of humor. (In this he is not entirely alone.)

    [ Also on InfoWorld: Try something new this year -- like one of the 9 Windows Start menus for Windows 8. | For a humorous take on the tech industry's shenanigans, subscribe to Robert X. Cringely's Notes from the Underground newsletter. | Get the latest insight on the tech news that matters from InfoWorld's Tech Watch blog. ]


    I am normally Dave's go-to guy when he gets stuck with a computer problem, but I was totally useless in this situation. Other than playing with a Surface tablet over the holidays, which I thought was pretty slick, I don't have a lot of experience with Windows 8. That's deliberate.

    I have a few standing policies when it comes to Microsoft products. One -- a pretty common ploy -- is to avoid using any Version 1.0 product coming out of Redmond. Another is to avoid every other operating system upgrade (again, not uncommon). I didn't do that with Vista, and I regretted it. Windows 7 has been a much better-behaved houseguest, and I see no good reason to evict it for the not-yet-housebroken Windows 8, especially if that involves a system upgrade.
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    I don't know why anyone would be waiting for Windows 9 in hopes of a start menu...

    Ain't happening.
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    I agree, just stick with w7.
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    A 3 year old child can run Windows 8 yet an adult can't, how did we ever get out of the Stone Age. Have these people heard of Google or Bing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    A 3 year old child can run Windows 8 yet an adult can't, how did we ever get out of the Stone Age. Have these people heard of Google or Bing.
    May be some of us are stubborn and too lazy to learn
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    Quote Originally Posted by brummyfan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    A 3 year old child can run Windows 8 yet an adult can't, how did we ever get out of the Stone Age. Have these people heard of Google or Bing.
    May be some of us are stubborn and too lazy to learn
    I think stubborn mostly with a little bit of laziness as well. I suppose that's why we have geeks and computer users, geeks like to explore new things and dig deep, and computer users just want everything front and centre.

    While I'm nowhere near as adventurous as I once was I still find it exciting to try new Operating Systems and I must admit I didn't find Windows 8 much of a challenge, maybe because I started from the first Preview and just played around with it.

    What I'm really hoping for is that MS can put all this together, so that everything runs more or less the same on all kinds of devices and that everything syncs effortlessly. But that won't happen if people aren't going to take to this new system.
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    I hope the heads at M$ are learning the lesson here because they seem to be learning it the hard way because of the slow uptake of Windows 8 from its few months after release at least but all empires have to crumble one day, not saying that this is it for MS but the enemy has gained enough power to attack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    I don't know why anyone would be waiting for Windows 9 in hopes of a start menu...
    Seriously, here I have to agree, why would anyone wait. Most people have already found an addon to fix the metro mess.


    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Ain't happening.
    This, I'm not so sure. Had 8 been a smashing success, no dialing back would have been considered, for sure. However, that is not the case, and everybody and their mother knows it. It is entirely possible that ms hedges their bet and changes a couple lines of code to allow choice.
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    There are about 3 dozen start menus doing incredible business.

    Samsung, HP and others are providing users with their own versions on their oem machines. Perhaps that is because they want people to buy their machines.

    It's perfectly obvious that nobody wants or uses it.

    MS should be grateful to all those providing start menus - win 8 would be doing even worse without them.


    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    I don't know why anyone would be waiting for Windows 9 in hopes of a start menu...

    Ain't happening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    win 8 would be doing even worse without them.
    Blah blah blah, all I see is FUD here. I'd like to see some sources of proof for your claims.
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