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I am back after saying goodbye

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    I am back after saying goodbye


    After receiving nice replies after I said goodbye convinced me that I should not give up so I am back to windows 8. I don't mind eating crow. I am now using thunderbird for email & classic shell for start menu & bypassing the metro on start up. Very seldom will I have a reason to open the metro. I am also back to 15 secs start up & 5 secs shutdown. jimjoh

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  2. #2


    Quote Originally Posted by jimjoh View Post
    After receiving nice replies after I said goodbye convinced me that I should not give up so I am back to windows 8. I don't mind eating crow. I am now using thunderbird for email & classic shell for start menu & bypassing the metro on start up. Very seldom will I have a reason to open the metro. I am also back to 15 secs start up & 5 secs shutdown. jimjoh
    Don't worry about it - I come and go all the time :-)

    Classic Shell is the only way to go for those of us who only use the Desktop and don't have touchy/mobile stuff.
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  3. #3


    Australia
    Posts : 716
    Windows 7 Ult Reatil & Win 8 Pro OEM


    Quote Originally Posted by sgage View Post
    Classic Shell is the only way to go for those of us who only use the Desktop and don't have touchy/mobile stuff.
    Have to disagree on that one. Ex7ForW8 is free and imports Explorer 7 from W7 installation disc, and provides a fully functional, original Win7 Orb Start Menu, plus aero. Win7 full suite of games can also be downloded free from here.

    It provides two modes of use.

    1. Explorer 7 mode with direct boot to desktop with Orb Start Menu, aero, etc; and Metro totally gone. Makes boot up even quicker as no Metro data to boot on start up.

    2. Explorer 8 mode with native Metro and Windows 8 start screen and Orb Start Menu gone.

    There is a toggle swtich in jump start menu, and one in Metro start screen, to swap from one mode to the other. It logs user off/on again each time the switch is made.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mustang View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sgage View Post
    Classic Shell is the only way to go for those of us who only use the Desktop and don't have touchy/mobile stuff.
    Have to disagree on that one. Ex7ForW8 is free and imports Explorer 7 from W7 installation disc, and provides a fully functional, original Win7 Orb Start Menu, plus aero. Win7 full suite of games can also be downloded free from here.

    It provides two modes of use.

    1. Explorer 7 mode with direct boot to desktop with Orb Start Menu, aero, etc; and Metro totally gone. Makes boot up even quicker as no Metro data to boot on start up.

    2. Explorer 8 mode with native Metro and Windows 8 start screen and Orb Start Menu gone.

    There is a toggle swtich in jump start menu, and one in Metro start screen, to swap from one mode to the other. It logs user off/on again each time the switch is made.
    Wow, never heard of Ex7ForW8 - it may be a little more drastic than what I need, but I will surely look into it. Thanks for the pointer!
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  5. #5


    Quote Originally Posted by Mustang View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sgage View Post
    Classic Shell is the only way to go for those of us who only use the Desktop and don't have touchy/mobile stuff.
    Have to disagree on that one. Ex7ForW8 is free and imports Explorer 7 from W7 installation disc, and provides a fully functional, original Win7 Orb Start Menu, plus aero. Win7 full suite of games can also be downloded free from here.

    It provides two modes of use.

    1. Explorer 7 mode with direct boot to desktop with Orb Start Menu, aero, etc; and Metro totally gone. Makes boot up even quicker as no Metro data to boot on start up.

    2. Explorer 8 mode with native Metro and Windows 8 start screen and Orb Start Menu gone.

    There is a toggle swtich in jump start menu, and one in Metro start screen, to swap from one mode to the other. It logs user off/on again each time the switch is made.
    Well, Ex7ForW8 is pretty nice. Metro gone and all. But I'm not seeing the "plus Aero". How does one go about getting that to work?
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  6. #6


    Posts : 5,360
    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    It is possible with a bit of effort and searching around to get rid of many of the Win 8 annoyances.

    Silly really, putting back what MS has taken out - and removing the new crap they have put in.

    I found removing the apps. bloatware helped.

    I removed them from the image before installing.

    If you have the install.wim - you can improve the installation media noticeably. If you have the install.esd - you can't.


    You can sort of do it after installing - but in that case, it just uninstalls the crapware for that user. The junk remains on your HD.

    The way to get rid of the crapware (sort of ) after install and log in is like this:


    Code:
    DISM /Online /Remove-Provisionedappxpackage /PackageName:Microsoft.Bing_1.2.0.137_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe
    
    DISM /Online /Remove-Provisionedappxpackage /PackageName:Microsoft.BingFinance_1.2.0.135_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe
    
    DISM /Online /Remove-Provisionedappxpackage /PackageName:Microsoft.BingMaps_1.2.0.136_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe
    
    DISM /Online /Remove-Provisionedappxpackage /PackageName:Microsoft.BingNews_1.2.0.135_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe
    
    DISM /Online /Remove-Provisionedappxpackage /PackageName:Microsoft.BingSports_1.2.0.135_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe
    
    DISM /Online /Remove-Provisionedappxpackage /PackageName:Microsoft.BingTravel_1.2.0.145_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe
    
    DISM /Online /Remove-Provisionedappxpackage /PackageName:Microsoft.BingWeather_1.2.0.135_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe
    
    DISM /Online /Remove-Provisionedappxpackage /PackageName:microsoft.windowscommunicationsapps_16.4.4206.722_x64__8wekyb3d8bb
    
    DISM /Online /Remove-Provisionedappxpackage /PackageName:Microsoft.Reader_6.2.8516.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe
    
    DISM /Online /Remove-Provisionedappxpackage /PackageName:microsoft.microsoftskydrive_16.4.4204.712_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe
    
    DISM /Online /Remove-Provisionedappxpackage /PackageName:microsoft.windowsphotos_16.4.4204.712_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe
    
    DISM /Online /Remove-Provisionedappxpackage /PackageName:Microsoft.ZuneMusic_1.0.927.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe
    
    DISM /Online /Remove-Provisionedappxpackage /PackageName:Microsoft.ZuneVideo_1.0.927.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe
    
    DISM /Online /Remove-Provisionedappxpackage /PackageName:Microsoft.XboxLIVEGames_1.0.927.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe
    You can put that in a batch file and run it.

    You will still have the store app, metro ie and mail.

    Then you can use whatever you like e.g. ext7for8 etc, to try and make the os behave vaguely sensibly.
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  7. #7


    I don't care about any of that. Ex7ForW8 goes 80% of the way to where I want to be. If I could get a proper engine for Aero/Glass theming, I'd be a happy camper.
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  8. #8


    Posts : 142
    Windows 8 Enterprise 64-bit (7 Ult, Vista & XP in V-Box)


    I like Classic Shell because it lets me use the Start orb AND the Start screen at the same time.

    I like having both.
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  9. #9


    Ohio
    Posts : 473
    Windows 8 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by jimjoh View Post
    After receiving nice replies after I said goodbye convinced me that I should not give up so I am back to windows 8. I don't mind eating crow. I am now using thunderbird for email & classic shell for start menu & bypassing the metro on start up. Very seldom will I have a reason to open the metro. I am also back to 15 secs start up & 5 secs shutdown. jimjoh
    Welcome back--glad to hear it.
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  10. #10


    I just tried Ex7ForW8, no AERO support. Not even mentioned in the readme.txt file.
    Back to Stardock's Start8 for me ($4.99).
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