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BSODs while gaming, fresh 8.1 install I think it's my GPU

  1. #31


    Posts : 5,139
    Win8.1Pro - Finally!!!


    It could be a bad card. Try another wired card (they're relatively cheap and it's always good to have one on hand in case of failures in the middle of the night.
    If the Killer card is built into your mobo - uninstall it's software and then disable it in the BIOS/UEFI.
    If it's not, then unininstall it's software and then physically remove the card from your system.

    Good luck!

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  2. #32


    Posts : 31
    Windows 8.1


    John,

    Thank you for your continued help. This has been the longest troubleshooting process I have ever had to deal with. I was hoping not to spend any more money but I will order a new NIC and get it here asap. The Killer NIC is onboard.
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  3. #33


    Posts : 31
    Windows 8.1


    Is there a NIC you would recommend for 8.1? It seems a lot of the intel NICs aren't compatible.

    Edit - Nevermind, the Intel EXPI9301CT runs through Windows Compatibility Center and checks out. I will grab that one I guess.
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  4. #34


    Posts : 31
    Windows 8.1


    Another blue screen, not network driver related I don't think.
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  5. #35


    Posts : 31
    Windows 8.1


    After a month of troubleshooting and still getting blue screens with different error messages, I am just going to reinstall windows 8.1. If that doesn't work, I am going to RMA my motherboard. If that doesn't work, I will RMA my video card. I will keep updating this thread with bsods and if anything fixes it I will mark it as solved. Please continue to help if you think of something I might have missed.

    Memtest86, prime95, intel burn test, Intel Processor Diagnostic tool, Furmark all pass with flying colors. I just can't understand why it is so hard to pin down what is going on and get the same error message every time. It has to be hardware or power.
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  6. #36


    Posts : 31
    Windows 8.1


    Fresh Windows 8.1 install, two BSODs back to back. I'm beginning to think this is a hardware issue. Please provide insight, should I Just RMA my Motherboard?
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  7. #37


    Posts : 5,139
    Win8.1Pro - Finally!!!


    It's hard to pin things down because there are a limited number of tests available.
    For example, there are no 100% accurate motherboard tests. The cost to develop such a test far exceeds the amount of money that they will make on that particular board - so the board would be much more expensive if there was a test.
    The same goes with most peripherals - it's cheaper to replace them than it is to develop a test for them.
    FWIW - the step after all that we're doing now is called "troubleshooting by hardware stripdown". Here's a link to the "how-to": Hardware Stripdown Troubleshooting

    But, there may be good news from this latest series of BSOD's.
    You have the WinRing libraries on your system. They date from 2008 and are known BSOD causes on some Windows systems.
    WinRing0x64.sys Sat Jul 26 09:29:37 2008 (488B26C1)
    many different programs that center around the using of the WinRing libraries (RealTemp, Corsair Link2 (known BSOD issues w/Win8), Razer GameBooster, Fusiontweaker (Google Code), etc)}OEM - none at Welcome to Python.org
    http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=WinRing0x64.sys
    Please uninstall this software and see if that helps. This is from one of the earlier BSOD's, so it's likely not seen in the latest one's (as you reinstalled Windows).

    Beyond that, it still looks like hardware to me (3 different BSOD error codes out of the last 4 memory dumps). But these memory dumps are looking more like a low-level driver than those previously (the STOP 0x50, 0xD1, and 0xA errors are more commonly seen with driver problems than with hardware problems). Unfortunately, troubleshooting BSOD's is usually a process of pursuing the most likely causes - and it may be that your system isn't experiencing one of the most likely causes, so it takes longer to rule everything out.
    Analysis:
    The following is for informational purposes only.
    Code:
    **************************Thu Apr 30 21:05:16.303 2015 (UTC - 4:00)**************************
    Loading Dump File [C:\Users\John\SysnativeBSODApps\043015-8968-01.dmp]
    Windows 8 Kernel Version 9600 MP (4 procs) Free x64
    Built by: 9600.17031.amd64fre.winblue_gdr.140221-1952
    System Uptime:0 days 0:00:51.928
    Probably caused by :win32k.sys ( win32k!cjComputeGLYPHSET_MSFT_UNICODE+2df )
    BugCheck 50, {fffff901407f4000, 1, fffff960001d2b48, 0}
    BugCheck Info: PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA (50)
    Arguments: 
    Arg1: fffff901407f4000, memory referenced.
    Arg2: 0000000000000001, value 0 = read operation, 1 = write operation.
    Arg3: fffff960001d2b48, If non-zero, the instruction address which referenced the bad memory
        address.
    Arg4: 0000000000000000, (reserved)
    BUGCHECK_STR:  AV
    DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID:  WIN8_DRIVER_FAULT
    PROCESS_NAME:  csrss.exe
    FAILURE_BUCKET_ID: AV_win32k!cjComputeGLYPHSET_MSFT_UNICODE
    CPUID:        "Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4690K CPU @ 3.50GHz"
    MaxSpeed:     3500
    CurrentSpeed: 3500
      BIOS Version                  V1.9
      BIOS Release Date             12/23/2014
      Manufacturer                  MSI
      Product Name                  MS-7917
      Baseboard Product             Z97 GAMING 5 (MS-7917)
    ииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииии``
    **************************Thu Apr 30 21:03:44.874 2015 (UTC - 4:00)**************************
    Loading Dump File [C:\Users\John\SysnativeBSODApps\043015-3359-01.dmp]
    Windows 8 Kernel Version 9600 MP (4 procs) Free x64
    Built by: 9600.17031.amd64fre.winblue_gdr.140221-1952
    System Uptime:0 days 4:32:38.498
    Probably caused by :ntkrnlmp.exe ( nt!KiTryUnwaitThread+32 )
    BugCheck A, {1db, 2, 1, fffff803b5ec3816}
    BugCheck Info: IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL (a)
    Arguments: 
    Arg1: 00000000000001db, memory referenced
    Arg2: 0000000000000002, IRQL
    Arg3: 0000000000000001, bitfield :
        bit 0 : value 0 = read operation, 1 = write operation
        bit 3 : value 0 = not an execute operation, 1 = execute operation (only on chips which support this level of status)
    Arg4: fffff803b5ec3816, address which referenced memory
    BUGCHECK_STR:  AV
    DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID:  WIN8_DRIVER_FAULT
    PROCESS_NAME:  Wow-64.exe
    FAILURE_BUCKET_ID: AV_nt!KiTryUnwaitThread
    CPUID:        "Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4690K CPU @ 3.50GHz"
    MaxSpeed:     3500
    CurrentSpeed: 3500
      BIOS Version                  V1.9
      BIOS Release Date             12/23/2014
      Manufacturer                  MSI
      Product Name                  MS-7917
      Baseboard Product             Z97 GAMING 5 (MS-7917)
    ииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииии``
    **************************Wed Apr 29 22:07:20.363 2015 (UTC - 4:00)**************************
    Loading Dump File [C:\Users\John\SysnativeBSODApps\042915-5171-01.dmp]
    Windows 8 Kernel Version 9600 MP (4 procs) Free x64
    Built by: 9600.17736.amd64fre.winblue_r9.150322-1500
    System Uptime:0 days 2:10:04.988
    Probably caused by :memory_corruption ( nt!MiWriteComplete+19f )
    BugCheck A, {fffffb80048928f0, 2, 1, fffff80300901487}
    BugCheck Info: IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL (a)
    Arguments: 
    Arg1: fffffb80048928f0, memory referenced
    Arg2: 0000000000000002, IRQL
    Arg3: 0000000000000001, bitfield :
        bit 0 : value 0 = read operation, 1 = write operation
        bit 3 : value 0 = not an execute operation, 1 = execute operation (only on chips which support this level of status)
    Arg4: fffff80300901487, address which referenced memory
    BUGCHECK_STR:  AV
    DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID:  WIN8_DRIVER_FAULT
    PROCESS_NAME:  System
    FAILURE_BUCKET_ID: AV_nt!MiWriteComplete
    CPUID:        "Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4690K CPU @ 3.50GHz"
    MaxSpeed:     3500
    CurrentSpeed: 3500
      BIOS Version                  V1.9
      BIOS Release Date             12/23/2014
      Manufacturer                  MSI
      Product Name                  MS-7917
      Baseboard Product             Z97 GAMING 5 (MS-7917)
    ииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииии``
    **************************Tue Apr 28 22:27:57.657 2015 (UTC - 4:00)**************************
    Loading Dump File [C:\Users\John\SysnativeBSODApps\042815-4187-01.dmp]
    Windows 8 Kernel Version 9600 MP (4 procs) Free x64
    Built by: 9600.17736.amd64fre.winblue_r9.150322-1500
    System Uptime:0 days 12:21:47.282
    *** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for e22w8x64.sys
    *** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for e22w8x64.sys
    Probably caused by :e22w8x64.sys ( e22w8x64+89ea )
    BugCheck D1, {0, 2, 0, fffff800b26779ea}
    BugCheck Info: DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL (d1)
    Arguments: 
    Arg1: 0000000000000000, memory referenced
    Arg2: 0000000000000002, IRQL
    Arg3: 0000000000000000, value 0 = read operation, 1 = write operation
    Arg4: fffff800b26779ea, address which referenced memory
    BUGCHECK_STR:  AV
    DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID:  WIN8_DRIVER_FAULT
    PROCESS_NAME:  System
    FAILURE_BUCKET_ID: AV_e22w8x64+89ea
    CPUID:        "Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4690K CPU @ 3.50GHz"
    MaxSpeed:     3500
    CurrentSpeed: 3500
      BIOS Version                  V1.9
      BIOS Release Date             12/23/2014
      Manufacturer                  MSI
      Product Name                  MS-7917
      Baseboard Product             Z97 GAMING 5 (MS-7917)
    ииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииии``
    
    3rd Party Drivers:
    The following is for information purposes only.
    Any drivers in red should be updated or removed from your system. And should have been discussed in the body of my post.
    Code:
    **************************Thu Apr 30 21:05:16.303 2015 (UTC - 4:00)**************************
    MBfilt64.sys                Thu Jul 30 23:40:32 2009 (4A7267B0)
    intelppm.sys                Thu Aug 22 04:46:35 2013 (5215CFEB)
    e22w8x64.sys                Wed Mar 26 11:58:37 2014 (5332F92D)
    TeeDriverx64.sys            Tue Sep 23 16:01:14 2014 (5421D18A)
    RTKVHD64.sys                Tue Mar 10 06:19:23 2015 (54FEC52B)
    nvlddmkm.sys                Wed Apr  8 16:32:37 2015 (55259065)
    ииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииии``
    **************************Wed Apr 29 22:07:20.363 2015 (UTC - 4:00)**************************
    GEARAspiWDM.sys             Thu May 16 15:18:28 2013 (51953104)
    imsevent.sys                Fri Jan 10 12:52:53 2014 (52D03375)
    ikbevent.sys                Fri Jan 10 12:52:53 2014 (52D03375)
    iaStorA.sys                 Fri May  2 19:06:56 2014 (53642510)
    RTKVHD64.sys                Wed May 14 06:28:52 2014 (53734564)
    nvvad64v.sys                Thu Nov 20 10:33:54 2014 (546E09E2)
    nvvadarm.sys                Wed Apr  8 16:53:37 2015 (55259551)
    ииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииии``
    **************************Tue Apr 28 22:27:57.657 2015 (UTC - 4:00)**************************
    WinRing0x64.sys             Sat Jul 26 09:29:37 2008 (488B26C1)
    MBAMSwissArmy.sys           Thu Jan  8 21:45:43 2015 (54AF40D7)
    
    http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=MBfilt64.sys
    http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=intelppm.sys
    http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=e22w8x64.sys
    http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=TeeDriverx64.sys
    http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=RTKVHD64.sys
    http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=nvlddmkm.sys
    http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=GEARAspiWDM.sys
    http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=imsevent.sys
    http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=ikbevent.sys
    http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=iaStorA.sys
    http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=RTKVHD64.sys
    http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=nvvad64v.sys
    http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=nvvadarm.sys
    http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=WinRing0x64.sys
    http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=MBAMSwissArmy.sys
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  8. #38


    Posts : 31
    Windows 8.1


    Thanks for the reply. When I re-installed on Thursday, I only installed the bare minimum of drivers and programs I would need. The drivers I did install, I downloaded from MSI's website. I only installed the Killer driver, not the entire suite. No bloatware.

    I BSOD'd last night and then immediately after reboot, Windows was trying to install updates to which I BSOD'd again. I probably have a corrupt install now. I am going to format again and re-install. But other than that, it has to be hardware at this point.

    What's next? I have already tested my hard drives/RAM/cpu. My video card ran Furmark for 30mins without any errors. I ran prime95 and Furmark at the same time to test if my PSU could supply enough power. No errors.

    I can boot to Windows just fine. One thing I did notice last night after my 2nd BSOD, after I pushed the power to power on my system, the system came on, sort of died a little then came on again and booted. I wonder if it's power, I still have that extra PSU I can install.
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  9. #39


    Posts : 31
    Windows 8.1


    Swapped out the PSU, newest bsod. It has to be the motherboard. ndis.sys this time.

    Also, my voltage readings are still around 11.15-11.28V even with this new PSU. I think the 12v rail connector on the motherboard might be faulty, sometimes it doesn't get enough voltage and it blue screens and resets. I can't believe that getting all these different errors with different drivers isn't some sort of motherboard issue.

    Also, something weird. OCCT is saying my 12v rail is supplying 11.18 V, HWInfo is saying it's supplying 12.192V... ugh. This is frustrating.
    Last edited by mgtylerfalc; 01 May 2015 at 21:34.
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  10. #40


    Posts : 5,139
    Win8.1Pro - Finally!!!


    Software sensor readings aren't always identical - it all depends on how the program is programmed to read the sensor's output.
    If you've tried 2 different PSU's, I'd presume that the PSU isn't the problem - no matter what the sensor(s) is/are saying.

    I'd also suspect the motherboard - after ruling out the network card.
    If you can swap motherboards it won't hurt to do that (but it will be a pain).
    I'd suggest first trying another network card (and uninstalling/disabling the current card).
    They're fairly cheap and it doesn't hurt to have one on hand in case your card dies in the middle of the night.

    Please note the number of 3rd party drivers in latest memory dump - there are very few.
    This is usually a symptom of a hardware issue (but it's not a 100% certain diagnostic).

    Analysis:
    The following is for informational purposes only.
    Code:
    **************************Fri May  1 21:19:32.557 2015 (UTC - 4:00)**************************
    Loading Dump File [C:\Users\John\SysnativeBSODApps\050115-3218-01.dmp]
    Windows 8 Kernel Version 9600 MP (4 procs) Free x64
    Built by: 9600.17736.amd64fre.winblue_r9.150322-1500
    System Uptime:0 days 4:01:43.180
    *** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for e22w8x64.sys
    *** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for e22w8x64.sys
    Probably caused by :e22w8x64.sys ( e22w8x64+8afa )
    BugCheck D1, {ffffffffb8cf8b48, 2, 0, fffff800738a768e}
    BugCheck Info: DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL (d1)
    Arguments: 
    Arg1: ffffffffb8cf8b48, memory referenced
    Arg2: 0000000000000002, IRQL
    Arg3: 0000000000000000, value 0 = read operation, 1 = write operation
    Arg4: fffff800738a768e, address which referenced memory
    BUGCHECK_STR:  AV
    DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID:  WIN8_DRIVER_FAULT
    PROCESS_NAME:  System
    FAILURE_BUCKET_ID: AV_e22w8x64+8afa
    CPUID:        "Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4690K CPU @ 3.50GHz"
    MaxSpeed:     3500
    CurrentSpeed: 3500
      BIOS Version                  V1.9
      BIOS Release Date             12/23/2014
      Manufacturer                  MSI
      Product Name                  MS-7917
      Baseboard Product             Z97 GAMING 5 (MS-7917)
    ииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииииии``
    
    3rd Party Drivers:
    The following is for information purposes only.
    Any drivers in red should be updated or removed from your system. And should have been discussed in the body of my post.
    Code:
    **************************Fri May  1 21:19:32.557 2015 (UTC - 4:00)**************************
    MBfilt64.sys                Thu Jul 30 23:40:32 2009 (4A7267B0)
    intelppm.sys                Thu Aug 22 04:46:35 2013 (5215CFEB)
    e22w8x64.sys                Wed Mar 26 11:58:37 2014 (5332F92D)
    TeeDriverx64.sys            Tue Sep 23 16:01:14 2014 (5421D18A)
    nvlddmkm.sys                Wed Apr  8 16:32:37 2015 (55259065)
    RTKVHD64.sys                Tue Apr 14 07:31:39 2015 (552CFA9B)
    
    http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=MBfilt64.sys
    http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=intelppm.sys
    http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=e22w8x64.sys
    http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=TeeDriverx64.sys
    http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=nvlddmkm.sys
    http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=RTKVHD64.sys
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