Prolonged BSOD issue under stress, Memory_Management etc

polegar

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Hey!


My problem has followed me for about six months now, sometimes it goes away for weeks and then comes back making my computer completely useless.
BSOD occurs especially under stress, like bf4 or lately also with CS:GO. First i thought it was the prosessor, and i installed a new cooler. It helped for a while but the problem persists. I have ran memtest, ran Furmark and many types of stress tests, but it seems that i cannot duplicate the crash in any of the tests.
As i said, the problem sometimes goes away, and sometimes comes back, yesterday my system crashed watching netflix.

After a crash, it usually takes awhile before i can start again, my comp tries to restart right away, but after few seconds it reboots again, so i have to take the power off for maybe 10mins or so before restarting.

I think the MOBO beeber is giving some short of warning too, it gives a singular beeb at seemingly random times.

Attached is the SF_Diagnostic_Tool created zip.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    windows 8.1
Quick update, i managed to get the system on for long enough to run some updates, after updates the computer was stable for some hours, but after shutting it down and being off for 2 hours the problem came back. Now windows is even saying it is broken and i need a boot disc to get it back on. Hopefully someone could help, if i cannot identify the culprit, i need to buy a new comp.

Attached latest crash dumps.
 
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    windows 8.1
Sorry for the delay in responding. There just aren't that many people who do BSOD analysis, so at times we get a bit overwhelmed!

Once you get the system started again, please use this free temperature monitor: HWMonitor CPUID - System & hardware benchmark, monitoring, reporting I see that you have SpeedFan installed - what sort of temps are you seeing with it?

If this is a laptop, try using a cooling pad. If it's a desktop, try opening the case and pointing a house fan (on high) into the case. See if that makes the system stay on longer (if it does, let us know).

The memory dumps say that the problem is hardware - and I agree with it. Please start with these free diagnostics: Hardware Diagnostics
If all the diags pass, then try this to help isolate the problem device: Hardware Stripdown Troubleshooting

Analysis:
The following is for informational purposes only.
Code:
[font=lucida console]**************************Wed Jun 11 10:33:33.593 2014 (UTC - 4:00)**************************
Loading Dump File [C:\Users\John\SysnativeBSODApps\061114-5828-01.dmp]
Windows 8 Kernel Version 9600 MP (4 procs) Free x64
Built by: [B]9600[/B].17041.amd64fre.winblue_gdr.140305-1710
System Uptime:[B]0 days 0:05:32.269[/B]
*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for Ntfs.sys
Probably caused by :[B]hardware ( Ntfs+ce73f )[/B]
BugCheck [B]24, {b500190637, ffffd001591d38e8, ffffd001591d30f0, fffff8017758f73f}[/B]
BugCheck Info: [url=http://www.carrona.org/bsodindx.html#0x00000024]NTFS_FILE_SYSTEM (24)[/url]
Arguments: 
Arg1: 000000b500190637
Arg2: ffffd001591d38e8
Arg3: ffffd001591d30f0
Arg4: fffff8017758f73f
PROCESS_NAME:  MsMpEng.exe
BUGCHECK_STR:  0x24
DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID:  WIN8_DRIVER_FAULT
FAILURE_BUCKET_ID: [B]IP_MISALIGNED[/B]
CPUID:        "Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2500K CPU @ 3.30GHz"
MaxSpeed:     3300
CurrentSpeed: [B]3303[/B]
  BIOS Version                  F13
  BIOS Release Date             09/19/2012
  Manufacturer                  Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
  Product Name                  To be filled by O.E.M.
¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨``
**************************Wed Jun 11 07:21:27.418 2014 (UTC - 4:00)**************************
Loading Dump File [C:\Users\John\SysnativeBSODApps\061114-5687-01.dmp]
Windows 8 Kernel Version 9600 MP (4 procs) Free x64
Built by: [B]9600[/B].17041.amd64fre.winblue_gdr.140305-1710
System Uptime:[B]0 days 0:17:54.106[/B]
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for atikmpag.sys
*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for atikmpag.sys
Probably caused by :[B]atikmpag.sys ( atikmpag+456a4 )[/B]
BugCheck [B]D1, {18, 7, 0, fffff8015da546a4}[/B]
BugCheck Info: [url=http://www.carrona.org/bsodindx.html#0x000000D1]DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL (d1)[/url]
Arguments: 
Arg1: 0000000000000018, memory referenced
Arg2: 0000000000000007, IRQL
Arg3: 0000000000000000, value 0 = read operation, 1 = write operation
Arg4: fffff8015da546a4, address which referenced memory
BUGCHECK_STR:  AV
DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID:  WIN8_DRIVER_FAULT
PROCESS_NAME:  chrome.exe
FAILURE_BUCKET_ID: [B]AV_atikmpag+456a4[/B]
CPUID:        "Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2500K CPU @ 3.30GHz"
MaxSpeed:     3300
CurrentSpeed: [B]3293[/B]
  BIOS Version                  F13
  BIOS Release Date             09/19/2012
  Manufacturer                  Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
  Product Name                  To be filled by O.E.M.
¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨``
**************************Wed Jun 11 03:04:19.422 2014 (UTC - 4:00)**************************
Loading Dump File [C:\Users\John\SysnativeBSODApps\061114-5468-01.dmp]
Windows 8 Kernel Version 9600 MP (4 procs) Free x64
Built by: [B]9600[/B].17041.amd64fre.winblue_gdr.140305-1710
System Uptime:[B]0 days 1:03:20.109[/B]
*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for mssmbios.sys
Probably caused by :[B]ntkrnlmp.exe ( nt! ?? ::FNODOBFM::`string'+2aebd )[/B]
BugCheck [B]1A, {41201, fffff68025b8e350, b7c0000183c80867, ffffe00120220cb0}[/B]
BugCheck Info: [url=http://www.carrona.org/bsodindx.html#0x0000001A]MEMORY_MANAGEMENT (1a)[/url]
Arguments: 
Arg1: 0000000000041201, The subtype of the bugcheck.
Arg2: fffff68025b8e350
Arg3: b7c0000183c80867
Arg4: ffffe00120220cb0
BUGCHECK_STR:  0x1a_41201
PROCESS_NAME:  svchost.exe
FAILURE_BUCKET_ID: [B]0x1a_41201_nt!_??_::FNODOBFM::_string_[/B]
¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨``
**************************Tue Jun 10 15:58:17.128 2014 (UTC - 4:00)**************************
Loading Dump File [C:\Users\John\SysnativeBSODApps\061114-5437-01.dmp]
Windows 8 Kernel Version 9600 MP (4 procs) Free x64
Built by: [B]9600[/B].17041.amd64fre.winblue_gdr.140305-1710
System Uptime:[B]0 days 0:01:08.804[/B]
Probably caused by :[B]ntkrnlmp.exe ( nt! ?? ::OKHAJAOM::`string'+b69 )[/B]
BugCheck [B]C000021A, {ffffc0013e8a6a80, 0, 0, 0}[/B]
BugCheck Info: [url=http://www.carrona.org/bsodindx.html#Example]WINLOGON_FATAL_ERROR (c000021a)[/url]
Arguments: 
Arg1: ffffc0013e8a6a80, String that identifies the problem.
Arg2: 0000000000000000, Error Code.
Arg3: 0000000000000000
Arg4: 0000000000000000
Arg2: 0000000000000000, Error Code.
BUGCHECK_STR:  0xc000021a_DCOM_Terminated
PROCESS_NAME:  services.exe
FAILURE_BUCKET_ID: [B]0xc000021a_DCOM_Terminated_nt!_??_::OKHAJAOM::_string_[/B]
CPUID:        "Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2500K CPU @ 3.30GHz"
MaxSpeed:     3300
CurrentSpeed: [B]3293[/B]
  BIOS Version                  F13
  BIOS Release Date             09/19/2012
  Manufacturer                  Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
  Product Name                  To be filled by O.E.M.
¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨``
**************************Tue Jun 10 15:10:57.835 2014 (UTC - 4:00)**************************
Loading Dump File [C:\Users\John\SysnativeBSODApps\061014-5921-01.dmp]
Windows 8 Kernel Version 9600 MP (4 procs) Free x64
Built by: [B]9600[/B].17041.amd64fre.winblue_gdr.140305-1710
System Uptime:[B]5 days 3:29:50.537[/B]
Probably caused by :[B]memory_corruption ( nt!MiBadShareCount+4b )[/B]
BugCheck [B]4E, {99, 1c2f54, 2, 20001b0001befd3}[/B]
BugCheck Info: [url=http://www.carrona.org/bsodindx.html#0x0000004E]PFN_LIST_CORRUPT (4e)[/url]
Arguments: 
Arg1: 0000000000000099, A PTE or PFN is corrupt
Arg2: 00000000001c2f54, page frame number
Arg3: 0000000000000002, current page state
Arg4: 020001b0001befd3, 0
BUGCHECK_STR:  0x4E_99
PROCESS_NAME:  dwm.exe
FAILURE_BUCKET_ID: [B]0x4E_99_nt!MiBadShareCount[/B]
CPUID:        "Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2500K CPU @ 3.30GHz"
MaxSpeed:     3300
CurrentSpeed: [B]3293[/B]
  BIOS Version                  F13
  BIOS Release Date             09/19/2012
  Manufacturer                  Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
  Product Name                  To be filled by O.E.M.
¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨``
**************************Thu Jun  5 08:55:44.430 2014 (UTC - 4:00)**************************
Loading Dump File [C:\Users\John\SysnativeBSODApps\060514-5859-01.dmp]
Windows 8 Kernel Version 9600 MP (4 procs) Free x64
Built by: [B]9600[/B].17041.amd64fre.winblue_gdr.140305-1710
System Uptime:[B]0 days 0:29:06.107[/B]
*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for mssmbios.sys
Probably caused by :[B]dxgmms1.sys ( dxgmms1!VidMmInterface+2f47b )[/B]
BugCheck [B]139, {3, ffffd00022f32d60, ffffd00022f32cb8, 0}[/B]
BugCheck Info: [url=http://www.carrona.org/bsodindx.html#0x00000139]KERNEL_SECURITY_CHECK_FAILURE (139)[/url]
Arguments: 
Arg1: 0000000000000003, A LIST_ENTRY has been corrupted (i.e. double remove).
Arg2: ffffd00022f32d60, Address of the trap frame for the exception that caused the bugcheck
Arg3: ffffd00022f32cb8, Address of the exception record for the exception that caused the bugcheck
Arg4: 0000000000000000, Reserved
BUGCHECK_STR:  0x139
DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID:  LIST_ENTRY_CORRUPT
PROCESS_NAME:  Hearthstone.ex
FAILURE_BUCKET_ID: [B]0x139_3_dxgmms1!VidMmInterface[/B]
¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨``
**************************Thu Jun  5 08:09:32.793 2014 (UTC - 4:00)**************************
Loading Dump File [C:\Users\John\SysnativeBSODApps\060514-6343-01.dmp]
Windows 8 Kernel Version 9600 MP (4 procs) Free x64
Built by: [B]9600[/B].17041.amd64fre.winblue_gdr.140305-1710
System Uptime:[B]0 days 0:08:14.470[/B]
Probably caused by :[B]hardware ( nt!IopParseDevice+2ee )[/B]
BugCheck [B]3B, {c0000005, fffff800de87e0ce, ffffd000264fa980, 0}[/B]
BugCheck Info: [url=http://www.carrona.org/bsodindx.html#0x0000003B]SYSTEM_SERVICE_EXCEPTION (3b)[/url]
Arguments: 
Arg1: 00000000c0000005, Exception code that caused the bugcheck
Arg2: fffff800de87e0ce, Address of the instruction which caused the bugcheck
Arg3: ffffd000264fa980, Address of the context record for the exception that caused the bugcheck
Arg4: 0000000000000000, zero.
BUGCHECK_STR:  0x3B
DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID:  WIN8_DRIVER_FAULT
PROCESS_NAME:  GameOverlayUI.
FAILURE_BUCKET_ID: [B]IP_MISALIGNED[/B]
CPUID:        "Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2500K CPU @ 3.30GHz"
MaxSpeed:     3300
CurrentSpeed: [B]3293[/B]
  BIOS Version                  F13
  BIOS Release Date             09/19/2012
  Manufacturer                  Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
  Product Name                  To be filled by O.E.M.
¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨``
**************************Thu Jun  5 08:00:58.279 2014 (UTC - 4:00)**************************
Loading Dump File [C:\Users\John\SysnativeBSODApps\060514-7421-01.dmp]
Windows 8 Kernel Version 9600 MP (4 procs) Free x64
Built by: [B]9600[/B].17041.amd64fre.winblue_gdr.140305-1710
System Uptime:[B]14 days 4:11:58.777[/B]
Probably caused by :[B]memory_corruption ( nt!MiFindEmptyAddressRangeInTree+117 )[/B]
BugCheck [B]3B, {c0000005, fffff801b10934a7, ffffd0002785bc10, 0}[/B]
BugCheck Info: [url=http://www.carrona.org/bsodindx.html#0x0000003B]SYSTEM_SERVICE_EXCEPTION (3b)[/url]
Arguments: 
Arg1: 00000000c0000005, Exception code that caused the bugcheck
Arg2: fffff801b10934a7, Address of the instruction which caused the bugcheck
Arg3: ffffd0002785bc10, Address of the context record for the exception that caused the bugcheck
Arg4: 0000000000000000, zero.
BUGCHECK_STR:  0x3B
DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID:  WIN8_DRIVER_FAULT
PROCESS_NAME:  csgo.exe
FAILURE_BUCKET_ID: [B]0x3B_nt!MiFindEmptyAddressRangeInTree[/B]
CPUID:        "Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2500K CPU @ 3.30GHz"
MaxSpeed:     3300
CurrentSpeed: [B]3293[/B]
  BIOS Version                  F13
  BIOS Release Date             09/19/2012
  Manufacturer                  Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
  Product Name                  To be filled by O.E.M.
¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨``
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3rd Party Drivers:
The following is for information purposes only.
Any drivers in red should be updated or removed from your system. And should have been discussed in the body of my post.
Code:
[font=lucida console]**************************Wed Jun 11 10:33:33.593 2014 (UTC - 4:00)**************************
viahduaa.sys                Fri May  4 06:35:46 2012 (4FA3B102)
HECIx64.sys                 Mon Jul  2 18:14:58 2012 (4FF21D62)
speedfan.sys                Sat Dec 29 15:59:35 2012 (50DF59B7)
HPKBx64.sys                 Mon Mar  4 05:18:45 2013 (51347505)
L1C63x64.sys                Sun Mar 31 23:15:17 2013 (5158FBC5)
intelppm.sys                Thu Aug 22 04:46:35 2013 (5215CFEB)
atikmpag.sys                Fri Dec  6 15:21:45 2013 (52A231D9)
atikmdag.sys                Fri Dec  6 16:19:43 2013 (52A23F6F)
[/font]
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=viahduaa.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=HECIx64.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=speedfan.sys
HPKBx64.sys - this driver hasn't been added to the DRT as of this run. Please search Google/Bing for the driver if additional information is needed.
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=L1C63x64.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=intelppm.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=atikmpag.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=atikmdag.sys
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win8.1Pro - Finally!!!
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Samsung/NP780
    CPU
    Came with the laptop (i7 of some sort)
    Motherboard
    Pretty sure that it has one, but haven't checked inside the case!
    Memory
    upgraded to 12 gB from 8 gB
    Graphics Card(s)
    has switchable - Intel/ATI - Used wrong drivers, now ATI card is inop :( Will have to fix it soon!
    Sound Card
    I'm nearly deaf, so this isn't used often
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Touchscreen on laptop/32" Toshiba on HDMI (laid the Sharp TV on a mouse and cracked the screen!)
    Screen Resolution
    800x600
    Hard Drives
    One Samsung 1tB drive - 5400 rpm. Gonna switch to a 7200/10000 rpm or an SSD (if I can find $500 for a 1tB SSD!)
    - Switched to 500 gB Samsung 840 series SSD - WOW!!!
    PSU
    Why do we ask this for laptops?
    Case
    Silver with a neat Samsung logo
    Cooling
    sub-par, gotta get around to working on it soon Worked on it - still sub-par! :(
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Natural - the same one I've used since it orignally came out around 1995
    Mouse
    no Mouse - Trackball!!!!
    Internet Speed
    too slow when I'm waiting for a download to finish
    Browser
    Yes, I use this (Firefox mostly, w/IE next most)
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender and Windows Firewall
    Other Info
    I'm handsome and a snappy dresser :0)
Hey!

It is a desktop, and there is no heat issues. Did some more tests and finally managed to crash the system with OCCT power supply test. I will buy a new power supply and see if it fixes the problem, i guess it is still possible that it is the motherboard and not the power supply...?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    windows 8.1
If you're trying a power supply, purchase it from a store that accepts returns. That way, if it doesn't fix the problem, you can at least return it to get your money back.

Good luck!
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win8.1Pro - Finally!!!
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Samsung/NP780
    CPU
    Came with the laptop (i7 of some sort)
    Motherboard
    Pretty sure that it has one, but haven't checked inside the case!
    Memory
    upgraded to 12 gB from 8 gB
    Graphics Card(s)
    has switchable - Intel/ATI - Used wrong drivers, now ATI card is inop :( Will have to fix it soon!
    Sound Card
    I'm nearly deaf, so this isn't used often
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Touchscreen on laptop/32" Toshiba on HDMI (laid the Sharp TV on a mouse and cracked the screen!)
    Screen Resolution
    800x600
    Hard Drives
    One Samsung 1tB drive - 5400 rpm. Gonna switch to a 7200/10000 rpm or an SSD (if I can find $500 for a 1tB SSD!)
    - Switched to 500 gB Samsung 840 series SSD - WOW!!!
    PSU
    Why do we ask this for laptops?
    Case
    Silver with a neat Samsung logo
    Cooling
    sub-par, gotta get around to working on it soon Worked on it - still sub-par! :(
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Natural - the same one I've used since it orignally came out around 1995
    Mouse
    no Mouse - Trackball!!!!
    Internet Speed
    too slow when I'm waiting for a download to finish
    Browser
    Yes, I use this (Firefox mostly, w/IE next most)
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender and Windows Firewall
    Other Info
    I'm handsome and a snappy dresser :0)
No, it did not fix the problem. I am at a loss. The only diagnostig/test that crashes the system is the OCCT power supply test. Is it possible that it would be the mobo?
:mad:
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    windows 8.1
There are no tests for motherboards. It's too expensive for the manufacturer's to develop a test for them - it's cheaper to replace them in order to test it.

Try this procedure to see if you can eliminate other things first: Hardware Stripdown Troubleshooting
Be sure that you have run all of the hardware diagnostics as the stripdown procedure relies on them having been run.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win8.1Pro - Finally!!!
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Samsung/NP780
    CPU
    Came with the laptop (i7 of some sort)
    Motherboard
    Pretty sure that it has one, but haven't checked inside the case!
    Memory
    upgraded to 12 gB from 8 gB
    Graphics Card(s)
    has switchable - Intel/ATI - Used wrong drivers, now ATI card is inop :( Will have to fix it soon!
    Sound Card
    I'm nearly deaf, so this isn't used often
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Touchscreen on laptop/32" Toshiba on HDMI (laid the Sharp TV on a mouse and cracked the screen!)
    Screen Resolution
    800x600
    Hard Drives
    One Samsung 1tB drive - 5400 rpm. Gonna switch to a 7200/10000 rpm or an SSD (if I can find $500 for a 1tB SSD!)
    - Switched to 500 gB Samsung 840 series SSD - WOW!!!
    PSU
    Why do we ask this for laptops?
    Case
    Silver with a neat Samsung logo
    Cooling
    sub-par, gotta get around to working on it soon Worked on it - still sub-par! :(
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Natural - the same one I've used since it orignally came out around 1995
    Mouse
    no Mouse - Trackball!!!!
    Internet Speed
    too slow when I'm waiting for a download to finish
    Browser
    Yes, I use this (Firefox mostly, w/IE next most)
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender and Windows Firewall
    Other Info
    I'm handsome and a snappy dresser :0)
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