I have a brand new Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon 20A7 with Windows 8.1 Professional. EXPLORER.EXE is crashing constantly. I disabled non-Microsoft shell extensions, applied all updates, even restored back to the factory image, but nothing works. This is a very expensive new machine that is basically an unstable paperweight.
Can someone look at the following minidump analysis, and give me some ideas, please? Thank you very much!
Computer Type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number self build OS windows 8.1 CPU Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU 750 @ 2.67GHz Motherboard Asrock P55 Pro Memory DDR3 Team--Elite-1333 8 gb Graphics Card Sapphire R9 280x Sound Card Realtek Alc 855 Monitor(s) Displays Acer V233H Screen Resolution 1920 x 1020
Mouse Speedlink Ledos and Nexus PSU OCZ Stealth 600 watt Case Antec 300 Hard Drives Samsung evo 850 SSd
Seagate ST 320 gb
Samsung HD 750 gb
Seagate ST 3000gb
As a start. Only 30Windows updates installed ensure thatyou have ALL Windows Updates. Most Windows 8.1 system have around 55 or moreupdates on average).
Computer Type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number self build OS windows 8.1 CPU Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU 750 @ 2.67GHz Motherboard Asrock P55 Pro Memory DDR3 Team--Elite-1333 8 gb Graphics Card Sapphire R9 280x Sound Card Realtek Alc 855 Monitor(s) Displays Acer V233H Screen Resolution 1920 x 1020
Mouse Speedlink Ledos and Nexus PSU OCZ Stealth 600 watt Case Antec 300 Hard Drives Samsung evo 850 SSd
Seagate ST 320 gb
Samsung HD 750 gb
Seagate ST 3000gb
Forgot to mention that the identical failure occurs when all Windows 8 updates have been applied. I've tested this backwards and forwards, and every combination of refresh, restore, updates, no updates, SFC /SCANNOW, disable third party shell extensions, disable DLNA shell extension, etc. Perhaps the minidump will be a little bit enlightened.
Perhaps the minidump will be a little bit enlightened.
No, im sorry at least not for me. Únfortunately this is not a normal dumpfile
Code:
This dump file has an exception of interest stored in it.
The stored exception information can be accessed via .ecxr.
(ca0.7fc): Access violation - code c0000005 (first/second chance not available)
ntdll!NtWaitForMultipleObjects+0xa:
00007ffb`54586b2a c3 ret
0:067> .ecxr
rax=0000000000000000 rbx=00000000194fd740 rcx=0000000000000000
rdx=00007ffb52f73750 rsi=00000000194fd750 rdi=00000000194fd6a8
rip=00007ffb535771d2 rsp=00000000194fd630 rbp=00000000ffffffff
r8=00000000194fd6c0 r9=00000000194fd750 r10=0000000000000000
r11=0000000000000040 r12=0000000000000000 r13=0000000000000e00
r14=00000000194fd740 r15=0000000000000080
iopl=0 nv up ei pl nz na po nc
cs=0033 ss=002b ds=002b es=002b fs=0053 gs=002b efl=00010206
shell32!Microsoft::WRL::ComPtr<ISyncStatusCacheEntry>::As<IUnknown>+0x22:
00007ffb`535771d2 488b01 mov rax,qword ptr [rcx] ds:00000000`00000000=????????????????
I will PM Usasma (our BSODexpert ) and ask him if he has any clue or ideas.
My suggestion:
Have you already checked if the issue persists in the safe mode.
If the issue does not persist in the safe mode then I would suggest that you perform clean boot procedure and check.
There is a possibility that some third party programs installed on the computer is causing the issue. How to perform a clean boot in Windows
Computer Type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number self build OS windows 8.1 CPU Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU 750 @ 2.67GHz Motherboard Asrock P55 Pro Memory DDR3 Team--Elite-1333 8 gb Graphics Card Sapphire R9 280x Sound Card Realtek Alc 855 Monitor(s) Displays Acer V233H Screen Resolution 1920 x 1020
Mouse Speedlink Ledos and Nexus PSU OCZ Stealth 600 watt Case Antec 300 Hard Drives Samsung evo 850 SSd
Seagate ST 320 gb
Samsung HD 750 gb
Seagate ST 3000gb
I suspect Office (propsys.dll in the stack text)
I also found references to smiley's and highlighting (if you have any programs like that, uninstall them)
Disable all Office shell extensions to see if that helps.
After that, the next step would be to uninstall Office and see if that helps.
Once iit's fixed, then reinstall Office to see what happens.
Computer Type Laptop System Manufacturer/Model Number Samsung/NP780 OS Win8.1Pro - Finally!!! CPU Came with the laptop (i7 of some sort) Motherboard Pretty sure that it has one, but haven't checked inside the case! Memory upgraded to 12 gB from 8 gB Graphics Card has switchable - Intel/ATI - Used wrong drivers, now ATI card is inop :( Will have to fix it soon! Sound Card I'm nearly deaf, so this isn't used often Monitor(s) Displays Touchscreen on laptop/32" Toshiba on HDMI (laid the Sharp TV on a mouse and cracked the screen!) Screen Resolution 800x600
Keyboard Microsoft Natural - the same one I've used since it orignally came out around 1995 Mouse no Mouse - Trackball!!!! PSU Why do we ask this for laptops? Case Silver with a neat Samsung logo Cooling sub-par, gotta get around to working on it soon Worked on it - still sub-par! :( Hard Drives One Samsung 1tB drive - 5400 rpm. Gonna switch to a 7200/10000 rpm or an SSD (if I can find $500 for a 1tB SSD!)
- Switched to 500 gB Samsung 840 series SSD - WOW!!! Internet Speed too slow when I'm waiting for a download to finish Browser Yes, I use this (Firefox mostly, w/IE next most) Antivirus Windows Defender and Windows Firewall Other Info I'm handsome and a snappy dresser :0)
How could I have a corrupt component store, whatever that is, after a fresh install of Windows 8.1? I did try Safe Mode as suggested by lifetec, but that didn't help.
I don't see any obvious Office shell extensions using ShellExView. Any idea how I might recognize them? Nothing jumps out and screams "Microsoft Office".
Microsoft Office did not come pre-installed on this computer, to my knowledge. I can't find anything to uninstall.
I am a BSOD specialist - as such, most of my experience is in the kernel space.
This is user space stuff, so I'm guessing to the best of my ability (it's similar and the techniques appear to be somewhat similar).
I don't know if there is a corruption - but I asked about running DISM in order to thoroughly diagnose the problem.
Have you scanned for malware?
Are you saying that Office is not installed on this computer? If so, the propsys.dll (in the stack text) may not be related to Office (which my research seems to suggest). Under the Product Name column in Shell Extension Viewer it should say Microsoft Office.
FWIW - here's the entry from my system (note that it says Windows Search - not Microsoft Office in the Product Name column. But, it is listed as an Office Document handler):
Office Document Property Handler No Property Handler Microsoft Property System 7.00.9600.16384 (winblue_rtm.130821-1623) Windows® Search Microsoft Corporation No No No No No No C:\WINDOWS\system32\propsys.dll {97e467b4-98c6-4f19-9588-161b7773d6f6} 2/12/2014 7:49:06 AM 8/22/2013 11:37:50 AM Yes A 1,202,888 No
Another revealing option in Shell Extension Viewer is to enable viewing of 32 bit handlers (as most Office installs are 32 bit). To do this, click on Options, then on "Show 32 bit Shell Extensions"'
If you can locate the above handler, disable it and see if that helps.
What about the smiley's and highlighting programs - what do you have installed that's similar to this?
Have you obtained ALL of the Windows Updates? I'm not too concerned about the Windows 8.1 Update 1 that was released today - but I am concerned about you only having 30 updates in the previous report that you submitted. If uncertain, run systeminfo from an elevated (Run as administrator) command prompt and look at the number of hotfixes.
Finally, you stated that you have disabled non-Microsoft shell extensions. There's an important (and confusing) distinction here between non-Microsoft and non-Windows. Windows File Protection protects Windows files - not necessarily Microsoft files (in other words, Windows files are a sub-set of Microsoft files). Additionally, Windows Update updates Windows files and not Microsoft files.
Exactly which files are protected is difficult to say (I haven't looked at a list since the XP days) - but there are files that are protected that aren't Windows files - yet Microsoft has seen fit to install/support/update them. Some examples are processor drivers and storage controller drivers.
Then add to this the fact that Windows Update will provide 3rd party driver updates (not certified by Microsoft) and that they'll provide other non-protected updates via Microsoft Update - and it's a mess that's very difficult to asses.
You could attempt to capture a Process Explorer trace of the event surrounding an explorer.exe crash. But even if the trace actually contains the offending event, the log is so huge that it's difficult to figure out exactly where the problem stems from. Others who are more experienced with Process Explorer may be able to reduce the log size by selecting the proper filters - I'm not that familiar with it myself, so I can't be much help there.
Computer Type Laptop System Manufacturer/Model Number Samsung/NP780 OS Win8.1Pro - Finally!!! CPU Came with the laptop (i7 of some sort) Motherboard Pretty sure that it has one, but haven't checked inside the case! Memory upgraded to 12 gB from 8 gB Graphics Card has switchable - Intel/ATI - Used wrong drivers, now ATI card is inop :( Will have to fix it soon! Sound Card I'm nearly deaf, so this isn't used often Monitor(s) Displays Touchscreen on laptop/32" Toshiba on HDMI (laid the Sharp TV on a mouse and cracked the screen!) Screen Resolution 800x600
Keyboard Microsoft Natural - the same one I've used since it orignally came out around 1995 Mouse no Mouse - Trackball!!!! PSU Why do we ask this for laptops? Case Silver with a neat Samsung logo Cooling sub-par, gotta get around to working on it soon Worked on it - still sub-par! :( Hard Drives One Samsung 1tB drive - 5400 rpm. Gonna switch to a 7200/10000 rpm or an SSD (if I can find $500 for a 1tB SSD!)
- Switched to 500 gB Samsung 840 series SSD - WOW!!! Internet Speed too slow when I'm waiting for a download to finish Browser Yes, I use this (Firefox mostly, w/IE next most) Antivirus Windows Defender and Windows Firewall Other Info I'm handsome and a snappy dresser :0)
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