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Windows 8.1 x64 BSOD During Youtube Playback.

  1. #11


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    Windows 8 x64


    I am disabling the overclocking and uninstall Sunbelt. I don't know where you got the impression that I wasn't. What I am trying to figure out now is where to get the drivers for the things I need to update. Then after that I am trying to figure out this installing Windows 8 using UEFI and SecureBoot.

    I also read that my video cards do not support UEFI GOP so using SecureBoot and UEFI will not work from what I read. I could be wrong though. I know nothing about this stuff.

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  2. #12


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    Quote Originally Posted by grimreaper1014 View Post
    I am disabling the overclocking and uninstall Sunbelt. I don't know where you got the impression that I wasn't.
    /sigh

    Quote Originally Posted by grimreaper1014 View Post
    @ MasterCheif - There is no overclocking at all enabled on my ATI HD7970's. The cards I have are Sapphire HD7970's OC with Boost. They have two BIOS's which can be changed by moving a switch for BIOS 1 and BIOS 2. I am using BIOS 1 which is the default clocks with no overclocking. All voltages are also set to the default for the video cards. Therefore, I think it was just a driver crash.
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  3. #13


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    Windows 8 x64


    Ummm yeah I was just stating the video card was not overclocked. I had no clue that the CPU being overclocked could cause the video card driver to crash. The only thing I was trying to get across was that the video cards are not overclocked. Then you jumped to the conclusion that I wasn't going to disable my CPU overclocks. What it comes down to is if you don't want to help me then don't. If you do then great. However, I am doing everything you guys suggested.

    This website has all the latest drivers for my motherboard. I am going to go through and download them all and install them. As I mentioned I have removed the overclock on my CPU, removed the beta video card driver and went with the latest stable release for Windows 8.1 x64, I have removed GFI (Sunbelt) Vipre Internet Security, and Updated the Realtek drivers. I believe that was everything that was suggested so far. Still would like to figure out more information on using UEFI and SecureBoot. Also, I would like to know if there is a way to install Windows 8.1x64 straight to my PC without having to install Windows 8 first and all the Windows Updates?
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    So the machine is stable now, for the last hour or so, at least?

    "Also, I would like to know if there is a way to install Windows 8.1x64 straight to my PC without having to install Windows 8 first and all the Windows Updates?"

    I can tell you like this: If there is a will, there is a way. We cannot discuss that on this site and if you find whatever it is you're looking for, you are taking a slight risk of it being laced with malware. It's all about trusting who you get it from or not.

    It's not necessary to re-install Windows for any reason here.
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  5. #15


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    Windows 8 x64


    I just got done installing all the updated drivers. It has been stable for the last 10 or so minutes. I will keep and eye on things and report back with any issues.

    I'm not looking for an illegal way to do it. I don't trust downloading stuff from unknown sources or illegally anyways. I just figured maybe Microsoft had an ISO available with at least the Windows 8.1 update on it. I know sometimes you can get legit ISO's from MSDN and Digital River I think their called.

    Yeah, I wasn't going to go through the hassle of reinstalling everything. I was just trying to get my ducks in a row for the next time I decide to do a clean install. Could I use like the PC Refresh option I think its called? Would that allow me to keep the Windows 8.1 update without having to install all the Windows Updates and Windows 8.1 from scratch?
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    It's not illegal. (Fits in nicely with how I've been saying how companies brainwash people.)
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  7. #17


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    Win8.1Pro - Finally!!!


    NOTE: I didn't see the 2nd page of posts when I typed this.

    You'll have to read the motherboard's manual before enabling UEFI and SecureBoot.

    It is best to get your drivers from known sources (such as the device manufacturer or the motherboard manufacturer). I am not familiar with the Station-Drivers link that you've cited - but I don't think it's related to the motherboard or it's devices. You've expressed concern about unknown links - and I regard this as much more dangerous than using the AsRock link (which I've provided below) - and it's why I try to only provide device manufacturer links in the DRT (Driver Reference Table).

    If you click on the links I provided for each driver, it'll take you to my website (the Driver Reference Table) where I do my best to provide descriptions and links to the latest updates from the device manufacturer.

    Sometimes (if your motherboard supports Win8.1) it's easier to get the 8.1 compatible drivers from the motherboard manufacturer's website. Here's the link to the model in your profile: ASRock > Z77 Extreme6 Although these aren't necessarily the latest drivers, you'll know that they are most likely compatible with 8.1 and your motherboard.

    Again I'll use the example of iaStorA.sys - it's a component of the Intel Rapid Storage Technology utility/drivers (from the Driver Reference Table link here: Driver Reference Table - iaStorA.sys ).
    Look down the list at the motherboard link that I posted previously and you'll see that AsRock offers the driver there as being compatible with Win8.1
    Take it slowly and carefully and ask questions as needed - you'll find that you can figure these out one-by-one.

    There are 8.1 disks available, but I haven't found that you can use them to install 8.1 using your 8 product key.
    There are also update disks available - but I question the reliability of them also.

    Our diagnostics/testing methods are based on a standard system without tweaks/overclocks/hacks/etc
    Tweaks/overclocks/hacks/etc make the system function differently than intended.
    They also have a higher than normal failure/crash rate
    Removing these tweaks/overclocks/hacks/etc is TEMPORARY - feel free to resume them once the BSOD's have been fixed.

    Finally, there is only one memory dump that we've seen - and we're basing a lot of this from your discussion of the problem.
    For example, you have pointed out that you overclock the system - yet the lone memory dump doesn't show this overclock.
    The more data we have, the easier it is to reach a diagnosis that points at the core problem(s)
    Last edited by usasma; 02 Mar 2014 at 06:26.
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  8. #18


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    Windows 8 x64


    Thanks for your replies and help fellas. Here is an update on what has happened. Yesterday while I was trying to install the latest drivers for my devices I ran into an issue with the Realtek High Definition Audio driver. It would not let me install it. It kept crashing. Then, I tried to remove it from the control panel first before installing the updated driver but when I tried running the uninstaller it crashed as well. I tried everything but could not figure out what was causing it to happen. I had a backup image that I made a few days earlier so I restored the backup image. Even after reverting to the backup image I had the same exact problem!

    I decided to just load the BIOS defaults (removing the CPU overclock) and reinstall Windows for scratch. I enabled SecureBoot in the BIOS which is disabled by default. The tab in my BIOS made it look like this was just a way to password protect the BIOS which is why I never used it in the past. Anyways, I enabled SecureBoot and selected the "Install Default Boot Keys" option. I fallowed the guides in this post on another forum which I linked to in one of my previous posts. After loading the factory defaults and enabling SecureBoot I put in the Windows 8 disc and pressed F11 to go into the boot menu. From there I booted the Windows 8 disc from the UEFI DVD drive. After formatting and deleting the partitions on the drives I noticed that it created the correct partitions on my C: drive for UEFI so I'm almost positive I did it correctly.

    Now I am booted into Windows 8. I do not seam to have any problems with my video cards at all so I'm not sure where people got the idea that Sapphire 7950's and 7970's do not support UEFI. Unless they have since corrected the issue. Anyways I know for a fact they are working because I disabled the Intel video on my I7 3770k in the BIOS. So far I have downloaded all the Windows updates and installed Windows 8.1 that is it. I am going to take my time and track down the latest drivers and make sure they are all Windows 8.1 compatible and released after the release of Windows 8.1 now. Also, I am going to wait to install my antivirus suite until after I make sure the system is completely stable as you guys have suggested.

    usasma, the reason why my PC only had one memory dump was because that was the only time my PC had crashed since the last time I reformatted. It seamed to be perfectly stable except for the beta video driver or whatever it was that caused the crash. This time instead of using the beta drivers for my Sapphire 7970's I am going to use the latest stable drivers as you guys have suggested. I also noticed for some reason the overclocks where not showing up in the diagnostics software. It was saying the CPU was running at the factory default speed. However, my CPU was definitely overclocked because when I looked in the BIOS it was set to "All Cores" 45/100 = 4,500MHz. Therefore, I'm not sure what that happened. However, as I have mentioned all overclocks are now removed and I am running the UEFI defaults. As you suggested I am going to take it slow to make sure everything is working correctly. After I get all the drivers installed should I run the diagnostics software again so we can make sure all the drivers are Windows 8.1 compatible? Thanks again for all your help. I really appreciate it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by grimreaper1014 View Post
    Thanks for your replies and help fellas. Here is an update on what has happened. Yesterday while I was trying to install the latest drivers for my devices I ran into an issue with the Realtek High Definition Audio driver. It would not let me install it.
    Likely malware or antivirus:

    https://www.eightforums.com/sound-aud...tml#post350892
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  10. #20


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    Windows 8 x64


    Ahhh okay thanks for the information.

    Hmmm the High Definition Audio Bus is disabled again. I think its the audio on the second video card being disabled since there is nothing being plugged into it. As soon as I install the video card and the Realtek audio drivers it happens. I found a post about another person having this problem. It can be found here. It seams to be related to something called ULPS (Ultra Low Power State) and the issue happens with crossfire video cards. This page seams to have a fix for it.

    I was able to go through and find the latest drivers for all my devices. I found some newer drivers for some of the devices that I downloaded directly from the device manufacturers. Some of the ASRock ones where newer and some of the Windows default drivers where the newest. For example the Etron driver for my USB 3.0 ports the Windows driver is newer than the one on the Etron site and station drivers. The Windows driver is dated 1/7/2014. Where as the Etron and Station Driver is dated before Oct of 2013. I can't seam to find a driver for my Broadcom Netlink NIC newer than 7/2013. The Broadcom driver on the ASRock page tries to say its version 16.2.4.1 but when I install it the driver is the same version and date as the latest one on the Broadcom site and Station Drivers page. Therefore, there doesn't seam to be a truly compatible Widnows 8.1 x64 Broadcom driver for my motherboard.
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