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  1. #11


    San Jose - California
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    I suggest you download "Autoruns" from Microsoft from the link below and run it as Administrator

    Autoruns for Windows

    I use this program quite often to delete/disable all the unnecessary Services, Add-ons, BHOs, Updaters etc...

    To make it easier to spot unwanted entries, click on Options -> Filter Options and hide Microsoft Entries
    Change the font if the listing is too small to read.

    To isolate the problem, look very close in Winlogon, Logon, Explorer, Internet Explorer, Schedules Tasks, Services and uncheck anything that you suspect
    Last edited by topgundcp; 24 Dec 2012 at 12:10.

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  2. #12


    Harrisonburg, Va.
    Posts : 10,488
    Windows 8.1.1 Pro with Media Center


    No matter where Bing came from it is a pain to remove.
    I had to search C:\ drive (& all subfolders ) to find it all.
    I had to give myself full control in the Properties box over each Bing thing to be able to remove it.
    Except 1.
    Bing News.
    I put it in a folder on Desktop & compressed it in the properties window.
    Dragged it to recycle bin & it was gone.
    You might want to rename it before compressing it using the old 8/3 file naming system.

    BINGisit.exe

    Or whatever.
    8.3
    8 in the first string & 3 in the second.

    When searching for Bing in C:\ drive use *.bing or name:bing or Name:*.bing

    I had to remove them all one by one.
    You will have to give yourself ownership & Adminitrator rights over them.Enable Inheritance too.
    This is a pain in the ass but it works.
    ALL my Bing is gone.
    Last edited by David Bailey; 24 Dec 2012 at 13:57. Reason: spelling
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  3. #13


    San Jose - California
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    @medab1
    I would not do what you did. You might eliminate one problem and yet create other problems down the road....
    The proper way is find out exactly where the problem is and fix it.

    There are a lot of "Bing" things associated with the Metro Apps that you might break and also a proper way to do is to uninstall, not just remove.
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  4. #14


    Posts : 9
    Windows 8 64 bit


    Thank you for the Autoruns suggestion, topgundcp. So far I have implemented all of the suggestions, and have not yet been able to identify the source of the problem. There have been no obvious indications in any start up locations as to why this occurs. I mght also add (as a help to analysis) that there are times when it does not happen. I boot the system and wait, and everything loads as it should without the Bing browser window appearing. This is one of the things that is so daunting about it. Usually, I end up waiting for several boot cycles until I know if the last thing that I did had any effect. So far, no joy, but everyone's help is greatly appreciated.

    armlabes
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  5. #15


    Posts : 9
    Windows 8 64 bit


    I am currently investigating information that I found here: Windows 8 goes to Bing by itself all the time - Microsoft Community

    Though it gets kind of technical, the short version involves disabling the Network List Service (netprofm). After determining that disabling it would not negatively impact my system, I began to consider this option, and am testing this now. However (and call me a nitpicker, I guess) I would like to know exactly why this works (if it does) and what entity or company is responsible for creating the behavior in the first place.

    Interestingly, during my search for answers, I actually found a Youtube video that displays the behavior exactly. Unfortunately, it seems that the creator of the video (or the only poster) believes that the problem is related to OpenDNS. I did actually investigate this avenue, but OpenDNS is not being accessed by my system in any way that I am able to determine. Coupling this with the fact that the poster was unable to describe *how* OpenDNS would cause this (particularly with their own strident denials concerning pop up accusations against them), I think it might be a blind alley, though the video itself is visually instructive, proving that such a problem does exist and is replicated on other systems.

    I will post the outcome of the aforementioned pursuit as I am able to determine success or failure. In the meantime, any and all input would be greatly appreciated.

    armlabes
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  6. #16


    San Jose - California
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    By any chance, do you have autorun enabled ?
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  7. #17


    Posts : 9
    Windows 8 64 bit


    Not sure what you are referring to.

    armlabes
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  8. #18


    Posts : 9
    Windows 8 64 bit


    unless you are talking about the Sysinternals program, which I have used as a stand alone investigation tool.

    armlabes
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  9. #19


    San Jose - California
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    No, Autorun is a Windows feature that allows executable files on a drive to be run automatically when that drive is accessed and this is one of the way hackers use to spread viruses into your PC. The feature works via a file named autorun.inf. When a drive is accessed, Windows checks for the presence of autorun.inf and, if found, follows the instructions contained within that file.

    NOTE: The solution they have is not really a solution. If you open Services and double click on Network List Service then click on the dependencies tab, you'll see it will effect other services ie. HomeGroup Provider & Network Connected Devices Auto Setup, that will in turn effect other features. By default, this service is set to "manual", that means it will run when triggered by other services and that would explain why it does not happen all the time.
    Last edited by topgundcp; 25 Dec 2012 at 13:02.
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  10. #20


    Posts : 9
    Windows 8 64 bit


    Ok, yes, I searched and turned up 8 instances of autorun.inf and used a text editor to read the entries. None of them appears to contain launch information for either the default browser or the bing search page. Still looking into this...

    armlabes
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