Solved pop and smtp settings for 'outlook' and 'live'?

Windows XP did all I ever needed. Heck! Windows 2000 did all I ever needed. I use the phone only as a phone. But I do need email.

Got a Nokia Lumia 520 last month. Set up an email account xxxxxxxx@live.com

Thrashing around with Windows 8.1, now that XP has gone off support. Set up a Windows account xxxxxxxxx@outlook.com.

Still not understanding the difference between 'live.com' and 'outlook.com', but I am able to access email on both these accounts by login with a browser.

But I do not work my email through a browser. I use Thunderbird, and preview with MailWasher Pro to purge any junk from the server.

After over an hour thumping around, have not been able to get Thunderbird or MailWasher to work either the 'live' or 'outlook' account. Maybe problem with pop and smtp addresses. Beginning to think Microsoft allows only working the mail through a browser.

The email account which I actually use, and depend heavily upon, is tied to my ISP. Am considering change of ISP, and therefore a change to a non-isp linked email - like gmail or outlook. BUT... if I can't get Windows emails working except through the browser or phone, Windows email is of no practical use to me.

Any guidance appreciated. (For extra credit, give a link to something that explains the difference between Windows 'live' and 'outlook'.)

thanks - shu

Got it working as well as it's gonna be. Both @live.com and @outlook.com use imap-mail.outlook.com as imap server.