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Is Windows 8.1 that awful for private (local) email?

  1. #1


    Posts : 8
    Windows 7 Professional, SP1, 64 bit.

    Is Windows 8.1 that awful for private (local) email?


    Greetings!

    I need to buy a nice Windows 7 system, but sadly cannot find the specs I need at my price point.

    If I should go with Windows 8.1, I understand that I *need* to have a Microsoft Account for email, which would be on the cloud and not local (and private,) like I presently have with Windows Live Mail 2012 for Windows 7.

    Is there any way to easily get around this in 8.1? Current email is POP3 or I can even do IMAP.

    TIA,

    Compumind

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  2. #2


    Posts : 42
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    You don't *need* to have a Microsoft mail account to use Win 8.1, but you definitely should use one to sign into your PC when you go through setup. In Win 8.1 everything in the OS, apps, and Microsoft ecosystem is synced around your Microsoft account login. Using a "local" account instead, which is possible, but will just cause too much pain (IMHO). Many of the apps and features in Win 8.1 want a Microsoft email account login.

    That being said, you do not have to use the Win 8.1 Mail app for your personal/primary email. You still have the desktop and should be able to install about any email client, including Windows Live Mail. Windows Live Mail and the Win 8.1 Mail app will not work together, but you can just ignore the mail app and I think you could use Windows Live Mail on the desktop as you've been doing.

    Maybe someone will correct me because I haven't tried this, but the desktop in Win 8.1 seems to work as it always has before.
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  3. #3


    Quote Originally Posted by rchris View Post
    You don't *need* to have a Microsoft mail account to use Win 8.1, but you definitely should use one to sign into your PC when you go through setup. In Win 8.1 everything in the OS, apps, and Microsoft ecosystem is synced around your Microsoft account login. Using a "local" account instead, which is possible, but will just cause too much pain (IMHO). Many of the apps and features in Win 8.1 want a Microsoft email account login.

    That being said, you do not have to use the Win 8.1 Mail app for your personal/primary email. You still have the desktop and should be able to install about any email client, including Windows Live Mail. Windows Live Mail and the Win 8.1 Mail app will not work together, but you can just ignore the mail app and I think you could use Windows Live Mail on the desktop as you've been doing.

    Maybe someone will correct me because I haven't tried this, but the desktop in Win 8.1 seems to work as it always has before.
    All the desktop apps work just fine for mail. I use Outlook from Office 2013 and Foxmail together with many Webmail sites.
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  4. #4


    Posts : 8
    Windows 7 Professional, SP1, 64 bit.


    Thanks for the replies.

    I wish to confirm that windows Live Mail 2012 will work perfectly on the Windows 8.1 platform.
    In addition, what is the difference between a "local account" and a "non-local" one?
    Is there a procedure listed?

    Cheers!
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  5. #5


    England, Northamptonshire
    Posts : 536
    Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit ; Windows Server 2012 R2 Standard


    Quote Originally Posted by Compumind View Post
    Thanks for the replies.

    I wish to confirm that windows Live Mail 2012 will work perfectly on the Windows 8.1 platform.
    In addition, what is the difference between a "local account" and a "non-local" one?
    Is there a procedure listed?

    Cheers!
    I found that when testing deployment of windows 8.1 I had to remove the network connection after installation and setup of the first user account. If it detects an Internet connection then it forces you to use a microsoft account. If you remove the network connection then it allows you to make a local account. Personally I prefer a local account mainly for administration reasons since microsoft accounts play havoc on my windows domain...

    Hope this helps,
    Josh
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  6. #6


    Posts : 376
    W8.1, W7


    I understand that I *need* to have a Microsoft Account
    Definitely not. Zero MS accounts here, no need for it to install and run w8, & am using cloud, email & whatever from providers of my choice.

    If it detects an Internet connection then it forces you to use a microsoft account
    Definitely not. But the choice for a local account is 'hidden', to make it look like one must use a ms account.
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    I think to upgrade to 8.1 you are required to have a Microsoft account. I re-installed Win 8 in a PC I sold recently and I wanted it to upgrade it to 8.1 but it asked me to create a Microsoft account so I abandoned that plan. I left it up to the person who bought the PC from me to upgrade to 8.1 if they wanted to.
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  8. #8


    Posts : 376
    W8.1, W7


    I think to upgrade to 8.1 you are required to have a Microsoft account
    No. The upgrade from store is available for everyone, local or ms account, & the upgrade process makes it look like one needs the ms account to proceed, but the option to use local is there.
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  9. #9


    Quote Originally Posted by 4wd View Post
    I think to upgrade to 8.1 you are required to have a Microsoft account
    No. The upgrade from store is available for everyone, local or ms account.
    Yes, of course, but that's not what I am saying.

    After you download the upgrade and you reboot, you will be asked to create or use an existing Microsoft account. It didn't look to me like it was possible to continue with a local account in 8.1.
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  10. #10


    Posts : 376
    W8.1, W7


    ^^^ Added the details to the post above while you were posting :O) Yes:
    you will be asked to create or use an existing Microsoft account
    but no need to be allured into following MS's wishes, one can choose local.

    Some practical info in this post
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