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How to use Winmail on Windows 8.

  1. #71


    Toronto, Canada. Born in the U.K.
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    elbmek, my last grammar school (in rather ancient times ;-) was not too far from were you live...Coleshill. I say last, I was an army brat so moved with the family every 3 years. I recall us house-hunting in Sutton Coldfield amongst many areas.

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  2. #72


    Quote Originally Posted by Ex_Brit View Post
    elbmek, my last grammar school (in rather ancient times ;-) was not too far from were you live...Coleshill. I say last, I was an army brat so moved with the family every 3 years. I recall us house-hunting in Sutton Coldfield amongst many areas.
    Greetings!
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  3. #73


    Posts : 85
    Vista/Win7/Win8/Win10 (x86/x64)


    Quote Originally Posted by Ex_Brit View Post
    You have to redo it. The Tutorial has been removed from the SevenForums site because it is no longer supported. I kept a copy and it should be contained in this zip file. Simply unzip it and follow the instructions as per the enclosed ReWinMail_tutorial.html. All the files you need are in there.
    The Tutorial has since been reinstated in its original location found here
    Windows Mail - Windows 7 Help Forums
    Last edited by endeavor; 22 Mar 2017 at 06:12. Reason: updated links
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  4. #74


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    Sounds good. I forgot about the take ownership bit and am wondering if I had already done that at some stage because I didn't have to do it again.
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  5. #75


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    I just discovered that Windows Mail didn't have all its defaults so if yours is the same run this .reg file (unpack the zip and then right-click > Merge or simply double-click it):
    How to use Winmail on Windows 8. Attached Files
    Last edited by Ex_Brit; 01 Nov 2013 at 09:07.
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  6. #76


    Posts : 85
    Vista/Win7/Win8/Win10 (x86/x64)


    Quote Originally Posted by Ex_Brit View Post
    I just discovered that Windows Mail didn't have all its defaults so if yours is the same run this .reg file (unpack the zip and then right-click > Merge or simply double-click it):
    I'm not sure there's a discovery but there's definitely no defaults missing within the current WinMailEdit.reg which gets automatically merged when they run the tutorial process after doing the few actions discussed at the beginning of this thread.

    I'm not sure how to say this except that a good suggestion is to delete that attachment, it has unnecessary entries but most importantly it's 100% unnecessary and will cause someone cosmetic grief if they merge it after they have WinMail already set up as it will mess many of their own already set settings gui, while solving no problems to begin with. (tested)

    The current WinMailEdit.reg has all the latest modifications needed, and has only what is needed. Don't be concerned or try to compare it in size or content to the the original WinMailEdit.reg, where back then everyone was turning in portions of their own personal registry entries alongside valid ones to solve issues - the moments were great and absolutely a wonderful community effort in the days it happened, and never to be forgotten. In the process though there were some unneeded personal HKCU that were unintentionally sent in alongside the needed entries discovered that solved problems, but the personal was unnecessarily retained in the WinMailEdit.reg over a long period.
    The HKCU entry portion of WinMailEdit.reg was removed back in early 2012 for good reason. As with most programs, WinMail's registry is first initialized and driven off HKLM, and the HKCU per-user keys are built by the program when first launched and options set using HKLM entries as the base, or have some built-in self registering, or both. The Tutorial's WinMailEdit.reg provides only the necessary base HKLM registry entries that Are needed to resolve all operating issues discovered for the project that were found, and so now going forward everyone's own HKCU configuration, as it should be, will be, preserved when they have to run the Tutorial again (which includes WinMailEdit.reg automatically getting merged)
    Your attached Mail2 reg when merged overwrites what's suppose to be per-user built and wrecks settings someone already had set if they merge it after their initial setup. (There is no need to rewrite it different in the first place, or for that matter there's no need to rewrite any HKCU at all, all that is self generated automatically per user settings)

    Realize that as WinMail exists and sits in the registry Before anyone ever opens it on a machine that has not opened WinMail.exe yet, if you were to go looking at its registry settings within Registry Editor comparing it to a fully setup WinMail, yes nearly 40% of its WinMail registry entries in both HKCU & HKLM may appear to be missing...and they are suppose to be, until, WinMail.exe is actually opened and ran; it's not until one first opens up WinMail and uses it, starts making options changes, setting up their accounts, etc, which all along the way until finished for each process it builds and introduces more and more additional registry settings, nearly 40% more, at the appropriate time until finished. (tested)

    Anyway looking at this Mail2 reg at one instance, if you take a look at at:
    HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows Mail\Recently Used Addresses
    (again this is per-machine automatically populated so it should not even be there yet, but when it first appears it's of course blank with no entries, then it populates itself as one start sending emails; but if you look at what you are giving - you're merging someone's else's old personal email recent history, etc. I see one email addy from russia, etc, but again in the first place None of this HKCU personal settings should be in there at all. "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows Mail\Recently Used Addresses" will set itself accordingly.

    another instance...well look at what this Mail2 reg has in there for
    [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows Mail\Rules\Filter\FFA]
    "Name"="Alle Nachrichten anzeigen"
    or next down
    "Name"="Gelesene Nachrichten ausblenden"
    or next down
    "Name"="Heruntergeladene Nachrichten anzeigen"

    huh ?

    Again the point is there is no need to enter in any HKCU keys in any language to solve any known WinMail problems.
    All the rest of this mail2 reg is for whatever reason just changing around column sizes, toolbar settings, compacting counts, etc, etc, etc all for no valid reason, since each person sets their own options.
    The one Root you give:
    [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Applications\winmail.exe] is already given within the WinMailEdit.reg

    I could go on, but perhaps I should of sent this to your PM instead..

    As always had, I have a dedicated testbed on Windows 7 & Windows 8 for any software's, including WinMail on 7 & 8, and so can run any scenario at any point in construction to prove anything out.
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  7. #77


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    I probably wouldn't know the answer as I'm not too technical. I think in my case something went wrong with my re-doing it after upgrading to 8.1.
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  8. #78


    UK & Spain
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    Windows 8.1 Pro & Windows 7 X64 Ultimate


    I am running Winmail on Windows 8.1 Pro, love it, also use it on Windows 7 Pro & Ultimate. It interfaces with windows contacts located in the user files.

    On the odd occasion I find I get an Email that I am unable to open
    Problem signature:
    Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
    Application Name: WinMail.exe
    Application Version: 6.0.6001.18000
    Application Timestamp: 479197cd
    Fault Module Name: mshtml.dll
    Fault Module Version: 11.0.9600.16476
    Fault Module Timestamp: 52948abb
    Exception Code: c0000005
    Exception Offset: 00000000001a25ee
    OS Version: 6.3.9600.2.0.0.256.103
    Locale ID: 2057
    Additional Information 1: 8ac9
    Additional Information 2: 8ac990d380567ffb949d2ef1f9533f4e
    Additional Information 3: 19c8
    Additional Information 4: 19c85a33e203d75cafe1f3daf1cbd2d7

    Does anyone have any idea's
    Thanks in advance
    Syd
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  9. #79


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    Win 10 Pro + Win 7 Ult SP1 (x64)


    Try turning off email scanning in your anti-virus to see if that helps. I Googled winmail Exception Code: c0000005 and got quite a few hits on that.

    The best place to ask would be to pretend it's Vista (which WinMail belongs to) and post here: Browsers & Mail
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  10. #80


    UK & Spain
    Posts : 17
    Windows 8.1 Pro & Windows 7 X64 Ultimate


    I run Windows Defender on Windows 8.1......so don't think there is an option for turning Email scan off.
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