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How to use Winmail on Windows 8.

  1. #211


    Quote Originally Posted by endeavor View Post
    Well anyway I'm glad you got it working again Jody, good job; ...and btw you do know how to use the rep button right
    Thank you for your support!

    Now about the Compact button on x64, funny you should mention that, as I've just run across that the other day in this post Here
    I had always had my Win7 x86 WinMail set at 100 since that's really where it should be, and as I said there is absolutely no advantage of doing it any sooner. I will work on it when I get a chance and determine if it's just a x64 bit issue or if it exists in Win8/Win10 x86 too. Win7 x86 you can set it at whatever number you want and it works. fwiw x64 has proven to be more problematic than x86 in that Advanced Options area as you can see by looking at the WinMail bugs list. However it's an extremely minor problem comparatively, which will most likely end up getting added into the linked WinMail bugs list. imho, if in the end that every 6 months one has to manually click to Compact - then so be it. We're lucky WinMail still works as good as it does.

    You know instead of quoting that whole post above, since it does not contain the attachments, you could of just cleanly linked to the WinMail post like this:

    Instructions on how to reinstate WinMail on Windows 8 or 10
    I don't see where I can press for Repatation Comments. I'm looking ...lol. Meanwhile, I dug out the Windows Mail Utilities which allows me to manually compress the database.

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  2. #212


    Posts : 98
    Vista/Win7/Win8/Win10 (x86/x64)


    Quote Originally Posted by Jody Thornton View Post
    I don't see where I can press for Reputation Comments. I'm looking ...lol.
    Meanwhile, I dug out the Windows Mail Utilities which allows me to manually compress the database.
    ...just as it says on the bottom of Post #10:

    Click the little 'hand-thumbs-up' icon on the bottom left of the post that helped you, this gives recognition to the poster and shows your appreciation for the work that's been done which has been a lot! I see it, and it is always greatly appreciated!

    Thank you for your support!

    Instructions on how to reinstate WinMail on Windows 8 or 10

    To
    manually compact if your WinMail client bug won't let you, then use this: Windows Mail Utilities
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  3. #213


    Just another situation (albeit very minor; just an irritant). I posted this over at MSFN. But I'd like to run it by you all here. I probably pulled a stupid.

    Ever since I started using the Windows Mail client from Vista on Windows 8, one thing I really noticed was how fast the send/receive dialog flipped by when I engaged it. Recently though, there was an authentication issue on Zoho's end (Zoho is my mail provider). Thinking it was something on my end, I attempted recreating the accounts, compacting the database, and even running CCleaner.

    Now the Zoho issue is resolved but I notice that the send/receive process is noticeably slower. It appears that messages are about to come down, even when there are none. The progress bar goes across regardless, whereas before, it was lightning fast, even when messages were downloaded.

    I have deleted the WinMail program folder, reinstated it, reregistered the app to work with Windows 8 mail defaults, and recreated my accounts, but it's still a tad slower (not obtrusively but enough to know it's not like before)

    Any takers?

    One thing I can think of having done that may have added to the situation was be removing Internet Explorer 10. I not only disabled it from Add/Remove Features, but I also removed the payload on disk with the DISM command. So the IE program folders have some of the rendering stuff still installed, but the browser itself is gone. (I have since attempted reinstalling Internet Explorer 10 with the updates, but no improvement there.)
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  4. #214


    Posts : 98
    Vista/Win7/Win8/Win10 (x86/x64)


    Hello Jody,

    My thinking is it's on their end still, and not yours.

    Mine is mostly (but not always) fast (2 seconds total process to request a send & receive) and I am polling for 3 mail accounts (I have 5)

    Once in a while though, it goes slow just like you mention, maybe 5 seconds and once in a while a little more sluggy, but it's certainly nothing to do on our end, since, it's simply the connection between your computer and the server of your isp, and for me to also add into the circuit my particular .com server travel comes into play as well.
    Same thing when I go online and pull from my yahoo email account, heck sometimes it's fast, and sometimes it's lethargic.

    To prove it out for your local WinMail operation, and since restoring images of your C:\ partition only takes a few minutes (if you use partition image software) ..you could make a current backup partition image of your C:\, and then restore C:\ back to a time when there was no problem, and I'm pretty sure you will find it's now slow on that now too, and so once you prove that out - then just re-image back to the one you just made before you restored to put it back to todays current.
    If you don't use partition image backups for their enormous potential across the board to save your backside, then it's time you start. (if you want to that is)

    Anyway, that's my guess, and also an answer to prove out the theory; but it sounds like a normal anomaly to me from the way you explain it.

    And to your last paragraph, you know, I never not had IE installed or un-installed it and I choose to use it specifically; however you answered your own question I think since you put it back and it's still the same (here too though, if you had a saved backup partition image of C:\ created of the time before your removed IE and WM was still fast, then as a test and proof, you could restore that and prove out your questions, and restore back if warranted)

    edit:
    fwiw, there have been times over the years where a number of instances, I restored back in time for one reason or another to prove out and troubleshoot a problem, and I chose to leave it at that time point because it fixed the problem, and so decided to continue on from that particular time-point.
    I usually create an OS partition backup once a month, and a full HD(s) clone not more than after two months of use. For a fool proof backup ability.
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  5. #215


    Toronto, Canada. Born in the U.K.
    Posts : 687
    Win 10 Pro + Win 7 Ult SP1 (x64)


    Microsoft ended support for anything below IE11 January 12 so I suggest you install IE11 asap for your machine's security, whether or not you use IE doesn't matter. Windows 8 is also unsupported as of 13 Jan so upgrade to 8.1 at least, preferably 10 asap too.
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  6. #216


    Quote Originally Posted by Ex_Brit View Post
    Microsoft ended support for anything below IE11 January 12 so I suggest you install IE11 asap for your machine's security, whether or not you use IE doesn't matter. Windows 8 is also unsupported as of 13 Jan so upgrade to 8.1 at least, preferably 10 asap too.
    Again (I only say "again" because I've posted a lot about it... lol), I have to stay on Windows 8 x64, because my xw8200 workstation utilizes a pair of P4 based Xeons which won't run the x64 versions of 8.1 or 10. However, I want to use new tax software, and it won't run on Vista. And I prefer x64 Windows builds. Sorry I won't go back to x86 versions now that I'm used to having 7 gb of RAM.

    Besides, it MIGHT be possible to use Server 2012 updates on the Windows 8 codebase (no different than Server 2003 updates on XP x64 which worked). We'll see. Besides, most XP users haven't seen diddley issues with running a post-EOL OS. And Windows 8 is way more stable than XP. I'm not too worried.
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  7. #217


    Toronto, Canada. Born in the U.K.
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    Win 10 Pro + Win 7 Ult SP1 (x64)


    Well I'd still install IE11.
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  8. #218


    Quote Originally Posted by endeavor View Post
    My thinking is it's on their end still, and not yours. Mine is mostly (but not always) fast (2 seconds total process to request a send & receive) and I am polling for 3 mail accounts (I have 5) ... To prove it out for your local WinMail operation, and since restoring images of your C:\ partition only takes a few minutes (if you use partition image software) ..you could make a current backup partition image of your C:\, and then restore C:\ back to a time when there was no problem, and I'm pretty sure you will find it's now slow on that now too, and so once you prove that out - then just re-image back to the one you just made before you restored to put it back to todays current.... Anyway, that's my guess, and also an answer to prove out the theory; but it sounds like a normal anomaly to me from the way you explain it.
    I will try reinstalling Windows 8 after tax season and see if that rids of the issue. I have a Yandex and a GMX account. I set those up in Windows Mail, and excluded my two Zoho accounts from the Send/Receive lineup. They still lag a bit.
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  9. #219


    Quote Originally Posted by Ex_Brit View Post
    Well I'd still install IE11.
    Windows 8 can only support IE 10. Windows 8.1 only supports IE11.


    Good to meet you by the way. I'm working near the 404/16th Ave right now ...lol
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  10. #220


    Posts : 7
    Windows


    @Endeavor, thanks for the well written tips... however, after painstakingly following your lead, I click WinMail, but nothing happens (not even an error).
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