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  1. #1


    MD
    Posts : 865
    Windows 10 Pro x 64

    Sandboxie


    Hello
    I have been watching tutorials about this product and am confused.
    It seems that all content is sandboxed or not including email. While emailing, and in virtual mode, how do you actually send the email if you are in this environment?
    Thank you

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  2. #2


    Posts : 154
    Windows 8.1 Professional 64-bit


    The sandbox is like a quarantine in your system. It is isolated from your system and will not allow other programs to access your system. Although Sandboxie, by design, is not isolated from the Internet. Some people use Sandboxie to download things and make sure they are safe, then transfer said things onto their systems.

    You can also use a Virtual Machine on your computer, and use it to like a normal machine. There's a setting where you can let the virtual machine use your network card to send and receive data. Other computers won't know that it's "virtual". A computer signal, whether from an actual computer or a virtual computer, is still a signal.

    I hope that makes some kind of sense.
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  3. #3


    MD
    Posts : 865
    Windows 10 Pro x 64

    Sandboxie


    Yes, your message made a lot of sense. I guess there is a feature that allows you to either directly email or transfer the email to the regular pc.

    I tried a VM but at my skill level it was difficult. I installed Oracle with Ubuntu, and everything worked well. However, I was not able to find drivers to print and was not sure what was actual and what was virtual.
    I seem to have this inability to distinguish which is which when I perform a task to see whether it is completed or when it is isolated or deleted.
    I also did not know how to use my email.
    I know a VM takes a lot of room and resources whereas Sandboxie requires less. However, the VM covers everything all the time. I have a 1T hard drive, 6 GB ram, Intel i5, 3.30 GHz.
    I am struggling between the two because when I am not behind my router, I do not feel too secure.
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  4. #4


    Posts : 154
    Windows 8.1 Professional 64-bit


    If you feel worried about download questionable content, Sandboxie should suffice. A virtual machine used to test downloaded files isn't exactly "practical" in my terms; better used for testing things like programs.

    When you say e-mail, I'm thinking about a browser client, not an e-mail program like Windows Live.

    I'll say that ~95% of infections are due to people download random things (social media and advertisements that tell you you're missing software).
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  5. #5


    MD
    Posts : 865
    Windows 10 Pro x 64

    mail/email


    I agree with your comments and try to browse smartly.
    Could you explain how one uses an email program like Outlook.com or Windows Live Mail just to mention 2 in a Sandbox or VM ?
    If you are within a virtual environment, how do you access and utilize such programs .
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  6. #6


    Posts : 154
    Windows 8.1 Professional 64-bit


    Quote Originally Posted by Peter2 View Post
    I agree with your comments and try to browse smartly.
    Could you explain how one uses an email program like Outlook.com or Windows Live Mail just to mention 2 in a Sandbox or VM ?
    If you are within a virtual environment, how do you access and utilize such programs .
    In a virtual machine, you would use an e-mail client like any other program outside a virtual machine. Think about it this way. You have your operating system, then you use a program to run (or virtualize) another operating system within your normal operating system. Therefore, you are able to run any program in your virtual machine, including an e-mail client (download and install it like you would on a normal machine). Take note, virtual machines are "slower" than your normal environment.

    On the other hand, you have Sandboxie. It differs from a virtual machine because it's not a virtual machine. All it does is install or even run any program on your operating system in a "protected box" which isolates it from your computer so that any program that is run cannot damage (or infect) your system. I'm repeating myself, but I'm trying to explain it in a clear manner. Hope this helps a little.
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  7. #7


    MD
    Posts : 865
    Windows 10 Pro x 64

    Mail


    I do understand what you have related.
    I think my web based email would be ok but my wife uses the ISP's POP 3 which I hope I can find a work around for.
    I am looking at using Puppy or Mint in a stick right now.
    Thank you
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  8. #8


    MD
    Posts : 865
    Windows 10 Pro x 64

    Sanboxie


    Hello
    I am sorry to belabor this but I have been trying to research a couple of features about Sandboxie but tutorials just show how to rid the pc of malware.
    if you have your browser sandboxed for protection and send email with your regular email program, how does that program work if it is in a virtual mode? I.e., how do you email is the first question?
    Secondly, I you want to perform and action or keep any action rather than rid the machine which is all the tutorials show, how do you do that?
    Thank you
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  9. #9


    Posts : 154
    Windows 8.1 Professional 64-bit


    It's not a problem, this concept is difficult to "process" because you can't physically touch it. For some people at least.

    Have you looked at "Getting Started Tutorial" with Sandboxie? It shows up when you first start Sandboxie.

    It looks like this:
    Click image for larger version

    This shows how it works.

    Sandboxie can "sandbox" any program, including your browser and/or your e-mail client such as Windows Live (messenger?).

    You can right click any shortcut for any program, like so (you can also run files such as PDFs):
    Click image for larger version

    And run it sand-boxed. This will protect your system from that program modifying your system without your permission.

    Here I have a PDF document opened through Sandboxie (Notice the yellow highlight around the window; means it's running in Sandboxie):
    Click image for larger version

    If it contained a virus, then it would not be able to affect my system because it's isolated (in a secure room or a box) from the rest of my computer.

    Also, to clear up your confusion. The programs are not in a virtual mode. They're running in a "sand-boxed" area on your hard drive. Refer to the first picture I uploaded, it shows how Sandboxie works. I think you're confusing virtual machines with Sandboxie.

    Apologies, but I'm having a tough time understanding what you're asking in your second question...
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  10. #10


    MD
    Posts : 865
    Windows 10 Pro x 64

    Sandbox


    You did a wonderful job explaining what I could, not conceptualize.

    I have it now and thank you for taking the time and effort to explain it to me.

    You would make a good instructor.

    I have to decide between Linux on a stick and Sandboxie.

    I am leaning toward the latter especially after viewing your schematics and explanations. I did review all of the tutorials about Sandboxie but it took while to 'sink in. "

    Thank
    Peter
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