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  1. #1


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    Windows 8.1 Pro, iOS 7.1, Elementary OS

    Metro Browsers


    Hi, all!

    It's nice to be back on Eight Forums for a day.
    What is your favorite metro browser? (correct me if metro's name changed again, I'll stick with metro for now! )



    Here's some info on a few:

    Mozilla Firefox Preview for Windows 8
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    For those of you running the 64-bit RTM release of Windows 8, you can now download a nightly build of Mozilla Firefox from the Elm development branch and start testing. Elm is the experimental repository where most of our Metro development work has been happening. This repository produces nightly builds, much like the Firefox Nightly channel. Once installed, these builds will self-update so that you can track Metro Firefox development.


    Firefox has come to the preview phase of there new browser, with nightly builds and a new interface. In my opinion, it may have been better integrated into the OS than Chrome's "desktop oriented" transfer.

    Chrome for Metro

    Chrome is on a variety of devices, including iOS, Android, Windows Phone, and now, 8. It is almost a replica of the desktop edition, just without a top (menu bar, minimize, maximize, close). Instead of focusing on tablets, Chrome Metro wants to make it usable for PC users and bigger buttons for tablet users, actually quite simple.

    Internet Explorer 10
    IE 10 was built for touch, with almost as many experiments as Chrome just to show off Microsoft's new browser.

    A Test Project

    Yes, the whole browser is almost entirely new in Metro form, but the desktop edition looks almost identical to its predecessor.

    So, what do you think?

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    Right now, I use Chrome instead of IE because it's easier to deal with tabs in Chrome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kebero View Post
    Right now, I use Chrome instead of IE because it's easier to deal with tabs in Chrome.
    Same, Kebero!
    IE is a lot less manageable for me and I might become a firefox user if chrome doesn't touch it up!
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    Windows 7 Ult Reatil & Win 8 Pro OEM

    Is there a 32bit IE10 in W8 64bit OS?


    In W7 64bit it has a 32bit version of IE as well as the 64bit. I need the 32bit as the 64bit won't open the Taxation Department Portal for lodging tax returns and quarterly BAS statements online.

    Does anyone know if the 64bit version of W8 Pro have a 32bit version of IE10?
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    Windows 8.1 x64


    In the modern browser, where the only add-on that's allowed is flash, you'll be browsing with 64bit only on 64bit Windows 8. In the desktop browser on 64bit Windows 8, 32bit IE content tabs are still the default, though the browser process itself that hosts the UI "chrome" (also known as the frame process) will be 64bit- tabs inside will stay 32bit. You can't manually launch the 32bit browser anymore, for that reason (you can actually still find it on the filesystem in \Program Files (x86)\Internet Explorer\, but if you launch it from there it will just close itself and spawn a 64bit browser process instead). It's worth noting that on Windows 8 there's an advanced option in desktop IE called "Enable Enhanced Protected Mode", which loads all tabs as 64bit processes and adds the additional AppContainer security to those processes (similar to what the modern browser does).

    It's all documented here:
    Understanding Enhanced Protected Mode - IEInternals - Site Home - MSDN Blogs
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    Good subject matter, Grant.

    Thanks for that tweek, cluberti. I'll check that out.

    I've stuck with IE, for I don't care to use 3rd party programs on my machine unless I have to. I think it causes problems IMO.

    One of the things I don't like about 8 is the Modern IE. I just find it difficult to navigate in and I'm a big shortcut keys user. Tabs are manageable with shortcut keys , but I find it difficult to get to the favorites bar at the bottom. If there was an option to keep it open, it may help, but then I have to scroll over a lot to get to a site link needed. Maybe I'm doing something wrong, or there may be more shortcut keys that exist. Perhaps someone can fill me in.

    Anywho, I end up getting frustrated, close it out, and open the desktop version. Now there I pin my favorites to the left of my screen where my most used are at the top of the list. Plenty of real estate on mt 17-inch screen. A few first ones are folders that I open depending on where I'm cruising. This forum being one. EightForums home page where I sign in. Six tab keys gets to the user name box -> one arrow down highlights the stored name -> enter -> one tab key gets to the password box -> type password -> one enter key. Now while you may think this takes longer than with a mouse, it's not. <- Sorry. I went off on a tangent!

    Subscribed threads next. Some favorite ones next and so on. I may need a dictionary, YouTube, or other sites in other tabs.

    What would really be great in a browser is that it would open up with multiple tabs of one's favorites of choice -> Say 3 or 4 tabs all set up and ready to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    Thanks for that tweek, cluberti. I'll check that out.
    No problem .

    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    ...but I find it difficult to get to the favorites bar at the bottom. If there was an option to keep it open, it may help, but then I have to scroll over a lot to get to a site link needed. Maybe I'm doing something wrong, or there may be more shortcut keys that exist. Perhaps someone can fill me in.
    Pressing F4 brings up the bottom URL bar, including the favorites, pinned sites, etc. above it. I prefer pinned sites (in fact, I have a group of them) and typing in the name does bring it up, but it's pretty obvious that the "favorites" placement in the modern UI picker has been relegated to last, with Pinned and Frequent before it. If you haven't tried pinning sites, give it a try (and again, if you end up with a lot of them, use a group and put it where they'll be easy for you to use on your Start screen) - I've gone to doing this pretty much full-time, and only using desktop IE in a pinch.

    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    What would really be great in a browser is that it would open up with multiple tabs of one's favorites of choice -> Say 3 or 4 tabs all set up and ready to go.
    If you set multiple home pages in desktop IE's Tools > Internet Options, the modern IE browser will open those too.
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    I prefer Chrome. Their sync functionality has worked great for years, and I use a couple of add-ons and when I install the browser on a new computer, my bookmarks, my bookmark bar and my add-on's magically show up. I have the same bookmarks whether I am at work on my laptop, at work on my desktop, at home on my desktop, at home on my tablet or on my phone. And then there is the fact that I use Linux as well as Windows...and well...IE simply isn't available.

    I've also had no problems with malware related issues while on Chrome. I've seen quite a number of people at work who have gotten infected with drive-by downloads and malware and every single time these users were on IE. I'm of the opinion that this isn't a coincidence.
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    I use Chrome as well, but given IE (assuming you sync it with a Live / Microsoft ID, similar to using your Google ID to sync Chrome settings) does this as well with Windows 8, it would at least be a wash for IE on Win8. Chrome can do this across multiple OSes, so that's a plus for Chrome if you need that, of course.

    As to malware, if you're not logged on as an admin IE should be running in a low-IL sandbox, so getting malware or viruses should be pretty difficult (and in the off chance infection did occur, this would only affect the currently logged on user's profile - bad, but not recoverable). Most of the problems I've run across since Vista where IE was used as a malware vector stemmed from being logged in as an administrator, which unfortunately Microsoft still uses as the default for the first user. There's good reason for that, but it still isn't good. With Win8 and the inclusion of AppContainers, this really isn't an issue anymore and it should quash stuff like this. An attack vector would be easier with desktop software, although desktop IE can be opted-in to the new security model to protect it further. I'm guessing we'll see Windows 8 attacks come some other way - the browser is really not an easy target anymore, even if you are logged in as an administrator.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cluberti View Post
    In the modern browser, where the only add-on that's allowed is flash, you'll be browsing with 64bit only on 64bit Windows 8. In the desktop browser on 64bit Windows 8, 32bit IE content tabs are still the default, though the browser process itself that hosts the UI "chrome" (also known as the frame process) will be 64bit- tabs inside will stay 32bit. You can't manually launch the 32bit browser anymore, for that reason (you can actually still find it on the filesystem in \Program Files (x86)\Internet Explorer\, but if you launch it from there it will just close itself and spawn a 64bit browser process instead). It's worth noting that on Windows 8 there's an advanced option in desktop IE called "Enable Enhanced Protected Mode", which loads all tabs as 64bit processes and adds the additional AppContainer security to those processes (similar to what the modern browser does).

    It's all documented here:
    Understanding Enhanced Protected Mode - IEInternals - Site Home - MSDN Blogs
    Thanks for the input. When I said the Tax Portal would only open with IE9 32bit, that was in W7. I've since done a bit more testing.

    I'm currently running W8 Enterprise 64bit, with Ex7forW8 hacked start orb, which incudes explorer files from W7 installation disc. Using this, in the Explorer 7 mode, Metro and Explorer 8 are switched off.

    With this setup there are two IE10s, a 64 & 32bit version in Program files and Program files (x86). And from desktop both versions will open the tax portal. And that is a big plus for IE10.

    The question is, when I buy the OEM builder retail version of W8 Pro 64bit will it work the same as the Enterprise version? I don't want to buy it and then find I'm stuck with something that won't work. I'm guessing from what you've said re 32bit tabs that when I open IE10 from the 64bit program files, since it's on the desktop, it's opening with the 32bit tabs?
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