Win 8 Defender Update- install? Use McAfee

edythe

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Hello - i'm not using Windows Defender - have McAffee Security Suite ...Defender is turned 'off' ...rec'd definitions update for Defender just now - should i still do the 'update' even tho i don't use Defender ? thanks in advance -Edythe
 

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Hello Edythe,

You can if you like. It'll at least keep the definitions up to date if you should ever uninstall McAfee in the future. :)
 

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Hello Edythe,

You can if you like. It'll at least keep the definitions up to date if you should ever uninstall McAfee in the future. :)
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OK tried to do the 'update/definitions' for Defender - ''didn't install '' and still sittting in the 'windows updates' area with original MB numbers so i guess nothing of it installed.... I didn't understand reason but do yu think the 'failed' installation could be because Defender is turned 'off' ? thanks
 
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Most likely it may be an issue from McAfee since it WD shouldn't get updates if it's turned off or disabled.
http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/21962-windows-defender-turn-off-windows-8-a.html
ahhh then it's a catch -22 ... if mcaffee is 'running' it 'sees' the update for Defender as a 'threat' and won't allow the download because Defender is 'off' ... so i 'could' disable McAffee and do the Defender update - & then reverse the process but i won't mess right now - i'm making a geographal move this week so why 'court' trouble - LOL ... but.... in the event i would want to update Defender seems like i'll have to disable MCAfee while the download happens but wouldn't i be opening myself to 'trouble' with no AV/firewall running ?
 

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Just a possibility. Does WD show as turned off?
 

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Just a possibility. Does WD show as turned off?
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yes ! WD is definitely 'off' - it's showing it in 'red' + states: '' no updates'' (since i got this PC that came loaded with McAfee and i kept it 2 yrs now) ...so WD is 'off''... as of tomorrow i will be disconnected from the 'net' - i have no iphone (horror of horrors!) ...so will be w/o internet for about 2 weeks... if you post here but no reply from me, i'll eventually see it when i get back 'here' ... thanks again so much !
 

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One of those quirks.
 

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One of those quirks.
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IT'S A 'quirk' alright but what's a user to do? I'd turn-off McAfee while i'd be updating Defender (that is so far out of date that it couldn't protect my PC at all while the update would be taking place) so there would be ''protection' at all ...guess i could activate W-Firewall but that could be outdated also.... oh well
 

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