No Grace Period for Windows 8. Does an immediate activation.

Computerworld reports that Microsoft has eliminated the 30-day grace period used in Windows 7, forcing customers to use a legitimate product key immediately when installing the retail version of Windows 8. That's because the upcoming OS handles activation differently, pushing the Redmond company into tossing out the former "evaluation" period.

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Microsoft Nukes 30-Day Grace Period with Windows 8




I was wondering about this. When installing my TechNet version of Win8 Pro, the install would not proceed until I entered the product key which was different than Win7. Also I saw that as soon as I had a connection to the internet with Win8, my copy of windows was automatically activated. Looks like this is official.
 
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Yes, this is official. We have been discussing it for the past week.
 

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They likely want to kill the Install (with no key), rearm, rearm, rearm, reinstall, rearm.......You get the picture.
 

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MS also is radically changing the VOLUME license for vendors. One workaround cheat was to run a small boot up program that spoofed Win7 into thinking the computer was a Dell laptop which the constant volume product key would always activate. Now every computer from Dell will have to be run through a MS server that gives each machine a unique product key based on the unique aspects of the computer (mac address, mobo ID , etc) and the volume license. This will slam the door on this loophole.
 

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They likely want to kill the Install (with no key), rearm, rearm, rearm, reinstall, rearm.......You get the picture.

ok, so if I installed Windows 8 pro 64bit with a valid install key, which I did, will I be able to rearm for a total of 90 days before I either have to activate it or reinstall it? :think:

And if so is there a countdown timer somewhere that tells me how much time I have left before rearm or activation is required? :geek:
 

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ok, so if I installed Windows 8 pro 64bit with a valid install key, which I did, will I be able to rearm for a total of 90 days before I either have to activate it or reinstall it? :think:
With Windows 8 Pro, after inputting a valid key during install, within minutes of it having Internet access, it AUTOMATICALLY ACTIVATED itself. If you look at your properties, you should see that it is now activated. You will not have to do a rearm command at all.

And if so is there a countdown timer somewhere that tells me how much time I have left before rearm or activation is required? :geek:
Check your system, it should already be activated.
 

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Sounds like an understandable change, yes there are reasons for not activating a licence in some test scenarios for IT Pros, and these will have to be worked around, (Pros should have access to technet, MSDN, or volume licences so this does not become a real issue).

Lets be honest, the vast majority of not activated evaluation phase copies of windows 7 were not in the hands of those with possible legitimate reasons for not activating, but in the hands of those avoiding paying for the software. The grace period is a casualty of the people who believe it is OK to run their OS without paying for it
 

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ok, so if I installed Windows 8 pro 64bit with a valid install key, which I did, will I be able to rearm for a total of 90 days before I either have to activate it or reinstall it? :think:
With Windows 8 Pro, after inputting a valid key during install, within minutes of it having Internet access, it AUTOMATICALLY ACTIVATED itself. If you look at your properties, you should see that it is now activated. You will not have to do a rearm command at all.


And if so is there a countdown timer somewhere that tells me how much time I have left before rearm or activation is required? :geek:
Check your system, it should already be activated.

The thing is, there are keys that will let you install but won't activate. I think that is what tcman50 is talking about. The leaked RTM builds had such keys. You get nag screens asking you to activate, and some features are locked out until you do. I don't know if you can rearm or not, I didn't run a RTM build long enough to find out.
 

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A couple workarounds for the activation:

* Install Win8 Enterprise (available on Technet and MSDN, coming soon for VL customers if it isn't out there yet): Enterprise does not prompt for an activation key during installation. Unless you happen to have a KLM server on the network to activate it, it won't activate.

* Download and install the 90-day evaluation version of Enterprise. It's good for 90 days after install (not after download).

For some of the courses I teach we routinely install VMs with Windows client and server operating systems. They're not intended to be permanent systems, so we never activate them, and we rearm as needed (usually one rearm is sufficient). For Win8 I will make a 90-day evaluation version available to them and have them use that for the duration of the course. For the most part we'll use Win7 anyway for now - I am not sure 90 days will cover an entire semester.
 

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Sounds like an understandable change, yes there are reasons for not activating a licence in some test scenarios for IT Pros, and these will have to be worked around, (Pros should have access to technet, MSDN, or volume licences so this does not become a real issue).

Lets be honest, the vast majority of not activated evaluation phase copies of windows 7 were not in the hands of those with possible legitimate reasons for not activating, but in the hands of those avoiding paying for the software. The grace period is a casualty of the people who believe it is OK to run their OS without paying for it

My point exactly. lol, I can remember a thread on another forum asking how often do you reinstall and one person posted "every 90 days ;) nudge, nudge, wink, wink, say no more.
 

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That's not very practical - reinstall every 90 days?

Set everything up again , get your updates, reinstall your programs - I have better things to do with my life.

I don't think many people were doing that.

I do know one guy - a gamer- who reinstalls every month - he reckons it just keeps the o/s fast.
 

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^ Some people are. Guess it's a better option that using a cracked version with activation deactivated that might not be trustworthy.
 

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Yeah, that was another cheat, remove WAT or something like that. I do believe if you did that you couldn't use Windows update so you'd be unpatched etc. Running in trial mode Windows would update, you just had the time bomb hanging over your head.
 

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If I recall correctly, too, some follks thought they could "trick" the time bomb in Windows 7 by setting their BIOS date ahead by several years, installing th OS, and then setting the date back. So, for example, if I set the date to 2022, install the non-activated OS, then immediately set the date back to 2012, would I then have 10 years + 30 days to activate it?

I don't remember whether that little trick worked - and in the case of Win8 Pro it looks like that won't work anyway - but it was an idea some folks had.

If I install the 90-day trial version in what appars to be 2022, set the date back to 2012, will it still run for 10 years + 90 days?
 

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10 years, on a Windows OS, without having to reinstall, for any reason. :shock:
On amore serious note, I'd be very surprised if that loop hole still exists, assuming if it was ever real to begin with.
 

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The 30-90 day timer is not date related but a countdown timer that starts ticking during installation,
 

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Someone is always going to try to find a way around legitimate activation. I'm sure by the time the official release hits the shelves in October we'll see a lot more of this sort of thing.

I'm always wary of sites that offer things like that: you never know what you might be downloading along with or instead of what you think you're getting. I'm sure most people here know that already anyway.
 

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If people like Windows 8, and want to use Windows 8, and it's available for $39.99....why not just simply buy it?
 

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