Don't need no stinkin' Start Menu. I like the Start Screen along with All Apps and all their features.
So far as 8 to 8.1 > As usual it's mostly about getting drivers for a particular machine. Nothing new really. I know it sucks when we can't.
So far as ISOs > Don't understand why MS is going the route they are. Seems to me that they are promoting piracy rather than not. Found out that my 8 Pro System Builders key won't work on the ISO download page. OEM keys are out as well. Just retail editions. Ugh! I bought mine retail! ??? In the process of contacting them now. Argh and a woof thrown in!
again. Especially since the 8.0 to 8.1 Store upgrade seems to be breaking the factory OEM Reset to 8.0. That's leaving a lot or people stranded when things go south with their 8.1 install. Even some of those that made their Recovery drive ran into snags when they went to use it. It seems to me it would be good press if they offered up 8.1 ISO's to those running a genuine activated 8.1 install, even if it was originally OEM. But, based on past history, I wouldn't hold my breath.So far as ISOs > Don't understand why MS is going the route they are. Seems to me that they are promoting piracy rather than not. Found out that my 8 Pro System Builders key won't work on the ISO download page. OEM keys are out as well. Just retail editions. Ugh! I bought mine retail! ??? In the process of contacting them now. Argh and a woof thrown in!
M$ is hoping that most will forget about old Start menu by the time when Win 9 comes out and than will taut it as "New" feature.
I am satisfied with my Start8 (third party menu), so I could care less about it. Stardocks Modern Mix already works as it should, Microsoft just screws it up. I have only 3 useful Metro apps to date that I use, so could care less about Metro. However, there are numerous Windows 7 tools they removed, I would like to see be brought back. I also, can't use my wifi adapter properly.
But, my biggest gripe about Metro, is that I can not customize the screen as I would like, in version 8.0, Stardocks Decor8 was great, but was essentially disabled in 8.1. Some may think it is silly, but, I use mine on a 46" HDTV, it is on most of the time, so I want a desktop that I can customize, and want to look at. A screen that matches my rooms decor. I would like to see Areo brought back, customized, scrolling backgrounds on the start screen, able to customize fonts and tiles.
If I have to look at a screen 24/7, I want it to be what I choose.
Maybe Win 9,might have some of this. I doubt it though.
@RBS - COULD care or COULDN'T Care -- not sure which side of the fence you are on !!!!
BTW before getting too used to these 3rd party menus - prepare for the eventuality that they might (or probably) won't work in future Windows upgrades / releases. It would appear from the whisper places that W9 will certainly have some sort of menuing - also metro apps should be re-sizeable rather than occupying fixed portions of the screens -- very good for multiple (and LARGE) monitor users.
Also to say that Ms screws up a 3rd party app is a bit silly -- WINDOWS IS an Ms application -- it's up to 3rd party apps to conform to what the Windows interfaces are - not for Ms to re-write Windows for specific 3rd party apps. (Ms will actually WORL quite well with 3rd party developers / hardware driver manufacturers -- rather different from our very well known "Fruit Company").