So, let them be lazy, they don't bother to learn, I make money, everybody happy.
I cant agree with the thought that everyone who has a computer should learn everything about it so they can take care of issues on their own. If that happened, a lot of us would be out of a job. However, I do agree that they should have to learn some basics about operating the computer they own. Doing that would alleviate a lot of the small issues (Installing, uninstalling, running a program) and let us focus on the bigger issues. (OS issues, program errors, blue screens, etc stuff that you wouldn't expect the average end user to fix).
Sometimes people don't want to learn or are doing something else. Nothing wrong with that. For example if you run into a serious legal problem would you try and fix it yourself or use a professional Lawyer whose job it is to know the Law properly and sort it out.
We can't all know 100% of everything -- no problem in paying a professional to do a job that you can't do.
How many people on this forum for example would be quite at home erecting Scaffolding around a large complex building, or performing complex Surgery or Dentistry.. - Don't decry everyone just because they can't be bothered to learn how a computer works (or other tasks you might feel are simple). Everybody has a different skill set. Just use YOURS and if you can make money at it --fine.
I repaired computer for a relative of mine who has doctorate in IT from a Swiss university , he just could not be bothered with that, was better of working at IT company at the same time, I had to do it for free and he earned heck of a more money at same time.
I still think 8.1 update 1 / 8.1 update 2 is cumbersome and odd. It should be Windows 8.1, 8.2 and 8.3 etc.
Think of it like this Windows 8.1 is like the Second Edition of Windows 8 since the upgrade was significant enough for Microsoft to warrant a kernel change from the original Windows 8 in which they could not have called it a Service Pack.
Windows 8.1 Update 1 is like Windows 8 SE (Second Edition) SP1 where Update 1 acts like a Service Pack in previous version of Windows.
Now the upcoming Windows 8.1 Update 2 is not much different then calling it Windows 8 Second Edition SP2 if you want to go old school in the way of calling Windows 8 upgrades and updates.
I must add here that someone claimed that MS continues to track even though one "disconnects". Haven't had time to look into that yet.
During this time using this transformation OS I continue use the Desktop app/portal most generally for Office and IE. I find the subversive Modern/Metro IE difficult to use without touch, which is what it's designed for. Purchasing a touch screen for this task will greatly increase my surfing with a browser because using keyboard navigating in browsers absolutely sucks and always has. I dislike the mouse and use it the least I can. Until Office is written in the Modern/Metro Windows Runtime (WinRT) I'll need to use the Desktop app/portal. Until all programs are written in the Modern/Metro WinRT language, we all will have to use the Desktop app/portal.
Therefore being in CEIP, every time I’m finished with the Desktop app, I close it out with WinKey/Period/Down arrow. That’s my vote for the next edition.
Let me open this section up by stating that you seem to know more about OS tech than I do or probably ever will. I am merely a student with more time recently to learn.
Sure thing, mdmd, but I find it odd you would argue this point, for about a year ago you mentioned this fact in one of your posts. I performed an advanced search to find that post to no avail. Anywho, you did refer to it as a portal. It got me thinking about how Ms was going about doing this since the legacy desktop is now treated as an app in that it can be closed out even with legacy applications open on it, however, in reality it is just hidden. Desktop Windows Manager is still open in task manager.Also, the desktop, a.k.a. explorer.exe is fundamentally connected (in Windows 8) to the metro UI and WinRT via windows kernel integration, so there can be no disconnection without a rewrite of Windows NT.
Need to add this: If you think it is just a portal of the UI to run legacy apps,Desktop app, for it’s just that > An app > A portal of the UI to run legacy apps
as described previously, see what happens to your running WinRT metro apps,
if you terminate (end task) Windows Explorer in the Task Manager. (close / suspend the desktop)
I terminated (end task) Windows Explorer in the Task Manager as you suggested. This is the result:
Of course some screens in the UI will no longer open. No Start Screen > no desktop > a blank screen > Or is it? The green is the color that I picked for my theme. It seems this may be the new Modern/Metro desktop. Not sure, but it is an existing screen, otherwise it would be black. I was able to restart/shut down via Ctrl/Alt/Delete to get that screen. The windows key does not bring up the Start Screen. Oddly though, if I Alt/Tab I do see the switcher window with either type of app's weird-looking icon I had open, but the apps will not appear, but assuming they are still open. I wasn't able to screenshot those for that function did not work.
Here's the desktop being closed out. Look familiar?
The way I understand it none of this exists in the Windows NT Kernel. All this exists in the Win32 System (folder) of the top layer of the OS which is the User Layer. The User Layer requests the Kernel to perform tasks, for it's managing the hardware, drivers, and software within itself. I’m assuming that both the new and the old desktops exist in System Win32 folder, but that the new desktop takes precedence. That’s why the old desktop never really closes out. Yes?
On the other hand, I could be totally wrong. Just learning.
Architecture of Windows NT - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Windows Runtime - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Metro (design language) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
While I’m at it here, I installed the Store (WinRT) OneNote app. Quite interesting. Look at the editing tools they designed.